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Old 01-12-2018, 05:19 PM   Topic Starter
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Enough already! What's the deal with Sutton?

I get this feeling Reid is just prolonging the announcement he is keeping Sutton. He wants the fans emotions to die down so he doesn't catch extreme pushback.

There is really no reason for this to drag out like this. This defense played with no fire and edge, that alone should be enough reason to move on. When watching a top ranked defense, the lack of emotion on KC becomes so obvious. I've been a fan for 35 years and am still shocked this guy hasn't been shown the door yet. Just make your BS announcement Reid, we all need to digest it sooner or later.
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Old 01-12-2018, 05:23 PM   #2
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Its either that or we're waiting on someone in the playoffs for DC and dont want the staff being poached as we wait. The fact that we haven't had a press conference for Bieliemy is giving me pause.
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Old 01-12-2018, 06:05 PM   #3
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He's probably staying. That the deal. They didn't have good enough players and he's getting a pass.
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Old 01-12-2018, 08:20 PM   #4
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He's probably staying. That the deal. They didn't have good enough players and he's getting a pass.
It is true.

I sure hope Andy can's Sutton's ass, he has elevated his D's over the years considering he had to flesh out the D with bums like Gaines and Ford and get through major injuries to guys like Houston and Berry.

Please fire him and let him go to an NFC team, then bring in someone who will play more zone and take the focus away from turnovers.

The latest choke was as much on Dorsey for hamstringing the cap and letting the depth atrophy. Peters is good at ball hawking but he doesn't want to tackle, Houston is the next best player and he has lost a step, can't beat guys to the outside anymore and has a pitch count on pass rushes a game, Berry is probably the most complete player on the D but he wasn't there. Jones is a good starter but after he left the game there was no one to make a stop. There is no one else of note on the D, Revis should be embarrassed for cashing his check, he and DJ are done.
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Old 01-12-2018, 06:40 PM   #5
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The deal is he is our DC and that is not going to change.
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Old 01-12-2018, 06:46 PM   #6
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The deal is he is our DC and that is not going to change.

Oh God I hope you're wrong. Sadly, however, I fear that you are correct. Yet another year of mediocrity.............
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Old 01-12-2018, 06:49 PM   #7
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Oh God I hope you're wrong. Sadly, however, I fear that you are correct. Yet another year of mediocrity.............
I hope I am wrong as well, but all signs are pointing the other way.
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Old 01-12-2018, 06:41 PM   #8
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Since he's still in KC I'm afraid he's going to stay like Reid. Nothing will change
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Old 01-12-2018, 06:51 PM   #9
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I get this feeling Reid is just prolonging the announcement he is keeping Sutton. He wants the fans emotions to die down so he doesn't catch extreme pushback.

There is really no reason for this to drag out like this. This defense played with no fire and edge, that alone should be enough reason to move on. When watching a top ranked defense, the lack of emotion on KC becomes so obvious. I've been a fan for 35 years and am still shocked this guy hasn't been shown the door yet. Just make your BS announcement Reid, we all need to digest it sooner or later.
I disagree. If the Chiefs were keeping Sutton, feel like they would own it so that the rumor mill can shut up about it. They've put off end of year press conferences and haven't even formally introduced Bieniemy even though he's been announced as a hire. Likely scenario they don't want a press conference because they don't want to formally confirm or deny rumors.

I think the Chiefs are waiting on 2 guys. And if they can get 1 of them, they'll fire Sutton. If not, they'll keep him. Spagnuolo has an obvious Reid connection and is gunning for the NY Giants coaching job (maybe most plausible because he's run his scheme from 3-4). The other is Adam Zimmer who has a strong connection through Gary Gibbs. The Chiefs out of respect are probably keeping their distance until Minnesota's season is over.
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Old 01-13-2018, 10:10 AM   #10
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I disagree. If the Chiefs were keeping Sutton, feel like they would own it so that the rumor mill can shut up about it. They've put off end of year press conferences and haven't even formally introduced Bieniemy even though he's been announced as a hire. Likely scenario they don't want a press conference because they don't want to formally confirm or deny rumors.

I think the Chiefs are waiting on 2 guys. And if they can get 1 of them, they'll fire Sutton. If not, they'll keep him. Spagnuolo has an obvious Reid connection and is gunning for the NY Giants coaching job (maybe most plausible because he's run his scheme from 3-4). The other is Adam Zimmer who has a strong connection through Gary Gibbs. The Chiefs out of respect are probably keeping their distance until Minnesota's season is over.
Why would the Chiefs hold a press conference to announce they arenít firing someone?
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Old 01-13-2018, 10:21 AM   #11
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Why would the Chiefs hold a press conference to announce they arenít firing someone?
It doesn't have to be a press conference. A simple statement. They're no doubt being reached out to for comment and obviously have said nothing.
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Old 01-14-2018, 08:53 AM   #12
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It doesn't have to be a press conference. A simple statement. They're no doubt being reached out to for comment and obviously have said nothing.
The Chiefs also aren't going to release a statement that they aren't fining someone either. Come on, dude. The closest thing you'll get is perhaps Andy addressing it if he's asked directly, "Will Bob Sutton be the DC here next year." Even then, he'd probably respond with something like, "Listen, we are constantly reviewing the roster and the coaches. We've got to do better and that starts with me. That's how we roll."
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Old 01-14-2018, 09:38 AM   #13
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The Chiefs also aren't going to release a statement that they aren't fining someone either. Come on, dude. The closest thing you'll get is perhaps Andy addressing it if he's asked directly, "Will Bob Sutton be the DC here next year." Even then, he'd probably respond with something like, "Listen, we are constantly reviewing the roster and the coaches. We've got to do better and that starts with me. That's how we roll."
I think they're growing concerned that for the last 5-10 years we've been able to give their bullshit speech better, and faster, than they can.

Again, the Clarks just go back the the never-ending well of of strategery that dictates that they circle the wagons, hunker down in the hole, plan for a change or two, then hibernate until the draft. They've even gone as far as adding no-snore strips to this annual sleep cycle.

In the end the Clarks know they've been able to rely on the good hearts of the great people of Kansas City for forgive the previous year's, and now 48 years, of not getting it done.
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Old 01-14-2018, 09:46 AM   #14
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The Chiefs also aren't going to release a statement that they aren't fining someone either. Come on, dude. The closest thing you'll get is perhaps Andy addressing it if he's asked directly, "Will Bob Sutton be the DC here next year." Even then, he'd probably respond with something like, "Listen, we are constantly reviewing the roster and the coaches. We've got to do better and that starts with me. That's how we roll."
Again, they don't have to release a statement. Reid, veach, hunt everybody in that damn organization is getting peppered by the media asking if Suttons job is safe. One person has to answer a simple question. If Suttons job was entirely safe, why wouldn't the Chiefs defend him? Reid is a loyal guy. And wouldn't he be worried about someone like al harris would be worried about his job, and might join another staff? It sounds to me like the Chiefs org intentionally told the entire organization to say nothing to the press. That seems pretty unusual to me. All it takes is one answer to a simple question to shut up all the rumors, mostly bad.
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