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Old 03-08-2007, 07:57 AM  
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While confidence is high that this thread will burst into flames or spiral into chaos...I thought I'd give it a shot hoping some of you have a substantiated take. I know there are some whom dwell here that are current or former car dealers, wrenches, and what not.

Along with considering a Jeep Wrangler to replace my daily driver, I will also look at some 6 & 7 year old full-size trucks based on their affordability and abundance. I would love to hear some opinions on Ford F150 vs Chevy/GMC C/K 1500.
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Old 03-08-2007, 03:09 PM   #16
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The new Silverado is very very very close to passing the F150 in sales this year.... Then you add the Sierra.... GM owns the truck market
Yes, it is a numbers game. Accord counts 2 door AND 4 door Accords when they reports sales, Toyota counts Camry AND (Camry) Solara when they report their sales....so they can claim #1 best selling automobile. Chevy reports Impala, Malibu, and Monte Carlo, each separately.... If Chevy reported all three under an umberella name, like Honda and Toyota, Chevy would have the #1 best selling automobile, because combine the sales of those 3, they outsell the Camry.

With that said, though I sell Chevy's, I have nothing against Ford OR Toyota. I do chuckle at your signature tho.....
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Vehicles recalled/produced in the last 3 years :
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Toyota has recalled 10.5% (719,541/6,862,868)
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Old 03-08-2007, 03:12 PM   #17
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I have to admit, It makes me a little uncomfortable being in a thread where Rex and Dale are rubbing petroleum jelly over one another.
um, eeewwwwww. bad visual, bad visual.............

I don't get on a soap box about Chevy's but Rex and I do tend to agree about SOME GM issues.
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Old 03-08-2007, 03:14 PM   #18
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"The biggest selling truck on the road"- - Ford F150....the numbers don't lie.
Okay, so ask yourself.....Do I want to purchase the biggest selling truck on the road, or the longest lasting? I believe I would purchase the longest lasting.
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Old 03-08-2007, 03:16 PM   #19
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Okay, so ask yourself.....Do I want to purchase the biggest selling truck on the road, or the longest lasting? I believe I would purchase the longest lasting.
Since there isn't really a nickel's worth of difference between the two, I'd buy whichever was cheaper.
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Old 03-08-2007, 03:32 PM   #20
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Since there isn't really a nickel's worth of difference between the two, I'd buy whichever was cheaper.
“Modular design philosophy”. Ford hasn’t really used that, particularly lately.
If you don’t do any work on your own truck and just use it ‘till it’s done then get a newer one, go Ford.
If, however, you plan to keep a truck for a while and do some work on it as it’s needed, go Chevy.
From ’55 to ’93, Chevy engines didn’t change much. Parts are interchangeable. After ’93, the only thing that changed was the cylinder heads and intake manifold to accommodate a steeper valve angle and fuel injection. Since then, the latest change was ‘round ’98 with the Vortech engines, full sequential TPI, CDI ignition, yada yada.
Personally if I were look’n for a new truck I’d go Toyota, but that’s partially just to get Jake stirred up.
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Old 03-08-2007, 03:40 PM   #21
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“Modular design philosophy”. Ford hasn’t really used that, particularly lately.
If you don’t do any work on your own truck and just use it ‘till it’s done then get a newer one, go Ford.
If, however, you plan to keep a truck for a while and do some work on it as it’s needed, go Chevy.
From ’55 to ’93, Chevy engines didn’t change much. Parts are interchangeable. After ’93, the only thing that changed was the cylinder heads and intake manifold to accommodate a steeper valve angle and fuel injection. Since then, the latest change was ‘round ’98 with the Vortech engines, full sequential TPI, CDI ignition, yada yada.
Personally if I were look’n for a new truck I’d go Toyota, but that’s partially just to get Jake stirred up.
or Nissan but I've had very good luck with them.
Neighbor is big on Ford.

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Old 03-08-2007, 03:42 PM   #22
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Okay, so ask yourself.....Do I want to purchase the biggest selling truck on the road, or the longest lasting? I believe I would purchase the longest lasting.

Tastes Great! Less Filling!



Buy the "bowtie", they look better. The Fords are butt ugly, and Ford has never been able to make up their mind on a firing order. That drives me crazy, idiots!
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Old 03-08-2007, 03:49 PM   #23
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According to Polk, there are more Chevy trucks regestered than ANY other truck. Ford trucks MAY out sell Chevy, but there is undeniable proof that Chevy's outlast Ford.
Ford sell a lot more fleet vehicles.

This makes thier total sales numbers high, and thier durability numbers low.
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Old 03-08-2007, 03:58 PM   #24
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I am Chevy person, but owned a 2000 Harley Davidson F-150 and did not have one bit of a trouble with it and put about 90k on it.

I can tell you that the 5.4 gets sh*tty gas mileage. I was lucky to get around 10 in town and about 15 on the highway.
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Old 03-08-2007, 04:01 PM   #25
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Old 03-08-2007, 05:25 PM   #26
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Old 03-08-2007, 05:28 PM   #27
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Old 03-08-2007, 06:22 PM   #28
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Old 03-08-2007, 09:20 PM   #29
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Sorry I don't have any input other than I like the look of Chevy/GMC's better but somehow trust Ford more.

PLEASE! Any advice for me PLEASE!? I want a V8 old cheap truck to beat up and drive for a year or two, tow my friends boat, toy around with a bit of off roading, daily driver & I work 5 minutes from my house so I don't have to drive much.

I can sell my car for about 2000. My friend bought a burgandy 98 F-150 with 180,000 miles from an old man who was the only owner for 2 grand about 6 months ago, he bought a new truck a couple months ago and decided he doesn't need two trucks. Looks & drives just fine. He told me he'd give it to me for 1800 and just pay him 300 a month, he manages an auto shop, it has all new tires & he says if it ever needs anything I can take it in to him for free.

I'm not crazy about the truck but I really want to get rid of my car and it seems like a good deal to have some fun with this truck and just tear it up for a year or two then upgrade, only concerns are the high miles and I don't like the color, not sure if it'd be worth the trouble to get it painted, of course I don't expect everything to be perfect considering how friggin' cheap it is

Or I would could sell my car and find a different truck with a budget of up to 7-8 grand or so, Ford, Chevy, or GMC, V8 shortbed preferred, black, white or blue colors preferred.

anyone got some advice for me?
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