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Old 09-30-2004, 09:24 AM  
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Official Kerry vs Bush Debate tonight ...

Im looking forward to seeing Bush get verbally owned...

im gonna TIVO the SUm'bitch so I can relish each and every uncomfortable squirm by Bush... Oh joy.
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Old 09-30-2004, 08:49 PM   #166
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Combat? Did Kerry serve in ... Vietnam or something?

Good question...if only he would hint at it a bit, we might know.
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Old 09-30-2004, 08:50 PM   #167
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Here are your nuts and bolts: "I want to change the dynamics on the ground."
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Old 09-30-2004, 08:50 PM   #168
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Kerry has been nothing but solid on the re-directs...

I agree...but he needs new material. Really. He does great with what he has, but he's not changing the dynamic.
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Old 09-30-2004, 08:50 PM   #169
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I'm watching this and neither side has taken advantage of some clear openings that the other has given.

Did Kerry really say that WMDs are pouring into Iraq every day or did I mishear that one?

I heard it
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Old 09-30-2004, 08:50 PM   #170
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This keeps going back and forth, recycling the same points.
Yep. So far. Stalemate goes to the incumbent.
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Old 09-30-2004, 08:50 PM   #171
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Those attracted to optimism and sincerity will gravitate towards Bush.

Those attracted to more eloquent public speaking will do so to Kerry.

Other than that, this is worthless.
Amen.
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Old 09-30-2004, 08:50 PM   #172
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How many times will he say "I have a plan" and then not elaborate? Details, details.
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Old 09-30-2004, 08:52 PM   #173
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"Change the dynamics on the ground.....yet criticized the leader (with whom he wishes to work)"

POW! Left hook.....Kerry is dazed.
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Old 09-30-2004, 08:52 PM   #174
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We didn't go into Iraq to get Saddam?
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Old 09-30-2004, 08:52 PM   #175
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Yep. So far. Stalemate goes to the incumbent.
I wouldn't call it a stalemate yet...the first segment went to Kerry IMO. The last few segments have been the same thing...
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Old 09-30-2004, 08:52 PM   #176
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Bush has sort of a passive-aggressive thing going on with his rebuttals.
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Old 09-30-2004, 08:52 PM   #177
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OK Kerry, bring up the Saudi evacuation of America on 9/11 to rebutt the puppet comments.

(hoping to see a fist fight!)
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Old 09-30-2004, 08:52 PM   #178
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Change the dynamics on the ground?

That's it for me.

These debates are so f'ing weak. Used to look forward to them. Now, it's a play rehearsal.
Enjoy the rest lads..
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Old 09-30-2004, 08:53 PM   #179
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IMO, the only way Kerry can be definitively different on Iraq than Bush is to say we're pulling out now, and he can't do that politically.

"I can do better" and "He's not doing it the right way" and "I have a better plan" ain't gonna cut it.
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Old 09-30-2004, 08:53 PM   #180
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September 30: First presidential debate

Location: University of Miami, Coral Gables, Florida
Length of debate: 90 minutes, starting at 9 p.m. ET
Topics: Foreign policy and homeland security
Moderator: Jim Lehrer, anchor of "The NewsHour with Jim Lehrer"
Format: Candidates will stand at podiums, with no audience participation. The moderator will ask at least 16 questions. A candidate will get two minutes to respond; the other candidate will get 90 seconds to comment on the question or to respond to his rival's answer.
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