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Old 10-06-2004, 04:29 PM  
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The Official "Lost" the series discussion

I figured I would start a thread for this and see what happens....there seemed to be quite a few viewers on the board for this show the past few weeks.....I like the direction the show is taking so far......episode 3 tonight at 7 central on ABC....
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Old 03-12-2010, 10:48 AM   #4696
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I was thinking the pool is what healed a person. And because the water was dirty, the pool had lost it's power. Sayid wasn't healed. He died. And the darkness claimed him and brought him back to life.

With Ben, I imagined that the water in the pool was clear. It worked. He was healed, and therefore not claimed. The choices he made were all his own and independent of the healing pool. It was his father's neglect, his guilt about his mother, and his need to belong that lead him to become the power hungry manipulator we've seen. The healing pool took away his innocence only by revealing the power of the island to him at a very young age; before he was ready to understand or handle it.

I think the idea that it is the pool itself - independent of the clarity of the water - that "claims" someone is a really interesting idea. And I hadn't looked at it that way before.
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Old 03-12-2010, 10:51 AM   #4697
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It doesnít bother me to the point that I donít like it, but I wish they would touch base with both groups in every episode.
They pretty much do.

I think that Michael is the only variable not touched on in this season so far.

You don't build up a character that much and not explain/kill him of...
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Old 03-12-2010, 10:53 AM   #4698
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They pretty much do.
Not really... They showed MIB or FLOCKE once in this last episode and that was when he tried to recruit ben.. Otherwise from my memory they didnt say Anything about the situation with the people following MIB
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Old 03-12-2010, 11:00 AM   #4699
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Does it bother anyone else that every other episode seems to be about one group of people? Example. One episode is about FLOCKE and the people he is recruiting then the next episode is about everyone else that is not involved with FLOCKE.
It doesn’t bother me to the point that I don’t like it, but I wish they would touch base with both groups in every episode.
There's only 40 minutes each week in which to tell this story. They have 17 hours this in which to complete the series.

It would be very poor narrative form if they constantly "checked-in" on other characters while revealing a specific character's arc.

You're just impatient.

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Old 03-12-2010, 11:01 AM   #4700
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There are a lot of different "camps" or storylines happening in this season. I think at one point we had The Temple Others, Jack & Hurley, Kate, Sawyer, Jin & Claire, Ilan & Co., and Richard all off in different directions. Plus the alt timeline... but I think we're at the point where all the stories are starting to gel. I think we'll see more of a balance of each camp as we roll along.

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Old 03-12-2010, 11:07 AM   #4701
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There are a lot of different "camps" or storylines happening in this season. I think at one point we had The Temple Others, Jack & Hurley, Kate, Sawyer, Jin & Claire, Ilan & Co., and Richard all off in different directions. Plus the alt timeline... but I think we're at the point where all the stories are starting to gel. I think we'll see more of a balance of each camp as we roll along.
I would guess it also plays into the Roma/Minerva mythology.

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Old 03-12-2010, 11:46 AM   #4702
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I would guess it also plays into the Roma/Minerva mythology.

JMO...
I'm not familiar w/ Roma/Minerva... I'll have to check out that mythology. Any suggestions on good sites to start researching?
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Old 03-12-2010, 11:48 AM   #4703
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There's only 40 minutes each week in which to tell this story. They have 17 hours this in which to complete the series.

It would be very poor narrative form if they constantly "checked-in" on other characters while revealing a specific character's arc.

You're just impatient.

Maybe a little Impatient.. i just got to thinking about it after the last weeks episode..I was thinking about Jin and sawyer..
Where is Jin? Is he just roaming the Jungle now???
And Sawyer where is he? just chillin in the Cave waiting for MIB to come back?
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Old 03-12-2010, 11:50 AM   #4704
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Maybe a little Impatient.. i just got to thinking about it after the last weeks episode..I was thinking about Jin and sawyer..
Where is Jin? Is he just roaming the Jungle now???
And Sawyer where is he? just chillin in the Cave waiting for MIB to come back?
Dude, the entire series has been like this where they focus on one particular character's arc, with other island happenings interspersed.

They're following the same exact formula they've used from day one.

It's not a movie, it's television serial.

The answers you seek will be revealed by the end of the series.

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As I see it, it wasn't the Island specifically that turned Ben "evil", it was the procedure that was performed after he was shot.

I presume that dunking him in the Temple water caused him to turn, just as it did Sayid.
I don't think Ben was ever intrinsically evil or that the procedure had anything to do with it. He had been 'turned' evil by a fundamental misunderstanding of his role in life. He'd been given a calling and was told it was important, and his belief in that calling led him to a hardened heart and ruthless manner. Upon learning of Jacob's disappointment in him and in the wake of Alex's death, he's beginning to learn that if he's true to his better nature, his calling will realize itself.
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Old 03-12-2010, 12:00 PM   #4706
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I'm not familiar w/ Roma/Minerva... I'll have to check out that mythology. Any suggestions on good sites to start researching?
Not off hand.

But if you can find the story of her and Arachne it would seem relevant.
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I don't think Ben was ever intrinsically evil or that the procedure had anything to do with it. He had been 'turned' evil by a fundamental misunderstanding of his role in life.
He became what every opportunity on the island allowed him to be.

The island is what allowed him to be him, without constraint, the person he really was.
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Dude, the entire series has been like this where they focus on one particular character's arc, with other island happenings interspersed.
It's very simple.

The premise is "If I ripped you away from all civilization, everything you know, or want, or fear, who would you be then?..."

The answer is all you would be left with is YOU...
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Dude, the entire series has been like this where they focus on one particular character's arc, with other island happenings interspersed.

They're following the same exact formula they've used from day one.

It's not a movie, it's television serial.

The answers you seek will be revealed by the end of the series.

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I know this how the whole series has been.. its just like WTF.. what happened to them? sawyer hasnt been in the last 2 episodes
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Old 03-12-2010, 12:25 PM   #4710
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Judging by the previews, I'm sure we'll find out what's up with Sawyer next week.
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