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Old 10-06-2004, 04:29 PM  
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The Official "Lost" the series discussion

I figured I would start a thread for this and see what happens....there seemed to be quite a few viewers on the board for this show the past few weeks.....I like the direction the show is taking so far......episode 3 tonight at 7 central on ABC....
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Old 03-12-2010, 12:28 PM   #4711
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Im sure we will too.. i have missed him dearly!
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Old 03-12-2010, 12:29 PM   #4712
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He became what every opportunity on the island allowed him to be.

The island is what allowed him to be him, without constraint, the person he really was.
I think there's a meditation on imperfectly understood belief systems at play. previous Ben was not who he REALLY was, he was who he would when he believed he was on the side of the righteous.
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Old 03-12-2010, 12:36 PM   #4713
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Im sure we will too.. i have missed him dearly!
Me too! Which is one of the reasons why I love this show.

Back is S1/S2 I hated Sawyer. After the Sun "kidnapping" I thought he was beyond trust, beyond redemption. But now... he's become one of my favorite characters, and one I often route for. His arch has been a highlight of the show, IMO. I'm excited to see what's next for him.
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Old 03-12-2010, 12:37 PM   #4714
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I think there's a meditation on imperfectly understood belief systems at play. previous Ben was not who he REALLY was, he was who he would when he believed he was on the side of the righteous.
Interesting.

So then, are you saying you think Ben no longer believes he's on the side of righteousness?
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Old 03-12-2010, 12:38 PM   #4715
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Me too! Which is one of the reasons why I love this show.

Back is S1/S2 I hated Sawyer. After the Sun "kidnapping" I thought he was beyond trust, beyond redemption. But now... he's become one of my favorite characters, and one I often route for. His arch has been a highlight of the show, IMO. I'm excited to see what's next for him.
Completely agree..every character has grown a lot through out the series.. but i find Sawyer's to be the most interesting... and his character has grown probably the most out of any character in the show through out the series!
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Old 03-12-2010, 12:45 PM   #4716
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Interesting.

So then, are you saying you think Ben no longer believes he's on the side of righteousness?
I think he's relieved of the notion that fruition of Jacob's plan is dependent on his machinations.

Maybe I should have initially clarifed that he thought he was ACTING on the side of the righteous.
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Old 03-12-2010, 12:46 PM   #4717
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Completely agree..every character has grown a lot through out the series.. but i find Sawyer's to be the most interesting... and his character has grown probably the most out of any character in the show through out the series!
Absolutley.

Ben may have just caught up to Sawyer in the "growth" department in this last episode. We'll have to see if Ben's change of heart is genuine and sticks, or if it's more of the same manipulation... but there's no doubt Sawyer's journey as been outstanding.
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Old 03-12-2010, 12:47 PM   #4718
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I think he's relieved of the notion that fruition of Jacob's plan is dependent on his machinations.

Maybe I should have initially clarifed that he thought he was ACTING on behalf of the righteous.
Ah.

Yes. Agreed.
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Old 03-12-2010, 01:19 PM   #4719
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I don't think Ben was ever intrinsically evil or that the procedure had anything to do with it. He had been 'turned' evil by a fundamental misunderstanding of his role in life. He'd been given a calling and was told it was important, and his belief in that calling led him to a hardened heart and ruthless manner. Upon learning of Jacob's disappointment in him and in the wake of Alex's death, he's beginning to learn that if he's true to his better nature, his calling will realize itself.
Well, Richard did say that once Ben was "healed" by the Temple, he would never be the same.

We saw first hand how Sayid was "healed" by the Temple and how the "darkness" grew in heart.

I believe they're drawing that parallel but we'll see.
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Old 03-12-2010, 02:10 PM   #4720
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Completely agree..every character has grown a lot through out the series.. but i find Sawyer's to be the most interesting... and his character has grown probably the most out of any character in the show through out the series!
Hurley has definitely grown the most.
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Old 03-12-2010, 02:31 PM   #4721
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Hurley has definitely grown the most.
Yeah, that DHARMA Ranch dressing will do that to ya.
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Old 03-12-2010, 09:46 PM   #4722
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William Atherton played all three parts. The guy from Real Genius, the guy from Die Hard, and the guy from Lost. I don't know why IMDB doesn't have him credited for the Lost character.
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Old 03-13-2010, 09:47 AM   #4723
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Old 03-13-2010, 09:50 AM   #4724
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