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Old 10-06-2004, 05:29 PM  
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The Official "Lost" the series discussion

I figured I would start a thread for this and see what happens....there seemed to be quite a few viewers on the board for this show the past few weeks.....I like the direction the show is taking so far......episode 3 tonight at 7 central on ABC....
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Old 03-24-2010, 09:11 AM   #4786
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Re: the necklace "give it to the Dr.' Anyone think Guyliner will someday hand it over to John Shepard?
Nice thought.. very well could be! BUT why would John Shepard want it?
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Old 03-24-2010, 09:16 AM   #4787
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I still got questions about how the #'s tie in?
A fairly expansive "answer" to the numbers has been given via the first online hiatus game: The LOST Experience. I'm not sure how much more we're going to get in-show. But if you want to know more about what was revealed off-show, you can go to lostpedia and get more info.
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What about Walt? I thought he was intergral to the plot?
I think fans made a much bigger deal out of Walt than the writers intended. The Others did voluntarily let him go after all. He was special. He had abilities much like Hurley and Miles. But I don't know that he was ever "intergral" to the endgame of the show. I hope I'm wrong. He's one of my favorite characters.
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Why was there a need for candidates to replace Jacob??
After last night's episode, it seems the candidacy program is something of an insurance policy. I think Jacob began looking for candidates after MIB tried to kill him. He needs someone to take his place in the event of his death. I'm guessing that Jacob didn't start calling candidates to the island until after the events of last night's story.
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Whats the deal with the stone that Jacob gave MIB?
Jacob and MIB have a "running joke" about the balance betweeen light and dark. We've seen the stones come up a lot in reference to this balance. We saw the black and white stones on a scale in the cave where MIB talks to Sawyer. It also parallels backgammon and Locke's early speech about one side being light, the other dark. Finally, Jack retrieved black and white stones from the Adam & Eve skeletons in S1. This is an old game. I think Jacob giving the white stone to MIB was a way of letting him know that he was winning. He won Richard. Or perhaps as a reminder that MIB has "light" in him as well as "darkness."

That's my take on all of your questions.
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Old 03-24-2010, 09:36 AM   #4788
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I disagree somewhat with the idea that this episode was lame. We got a lot of answers to smaller mysteries. Maybe the answers weren't what we expected, maybe some didn't like the answers, but they were given. There's been six years of speculation on a lot of this stuff. So, of course, some of the answers aren't going to be a surprise. I think that's okay.

And I think the Heaven/Hell/Devil stuff was just a metaphore. I wouldn't take it too seriously.
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Old 03-24-2010, 09:36 AM   #4789
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Old 03-24-2010, 10:16 AM   #4790
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And I think the Heaven/Hell/Devil stuff was just a metaphore. I wouldn't take it too seriously.

That is how I took it as well. Not the real hell, more like a hell on earth type situation. Being in the worst possible situation type of deal.
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Old 03-24-2010, 11:22 AM   #4791
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I disagree somewhat with the idea that this episode was lame. We got a lot of answers to smaller mysteries. Maybe the answers weren't what we expected, maybe some didn't like the answers, but they were given. There's been six years of speculation on a lot of this stuff. So, of course, some of the answers aren't going to be a surprise. I think that's okay.

And I think the Heaven/Hell/Devil stuff was just a metaphore. I wouldn't take it too seriously.
Was Season Three or Four when John was told to kill his father?

Once he was confronted with Anthony Cooper, Cooper said "Don't you know where we are?" with a laugh.

John couldn't bring it upon himself to kill Cooper, so he convinced Sawyer to do it.

Much like MIB convincing Ben to kill Jacob.

But the main reason I bring this up is that despite the show runners claims that the island isn't hell or purgatory, they've been dropping plenty of clues along the way that it IS hell or purgatory, with Cooper's proclamation, the fact that many of the Losties have murdered and now, last night's episode.

I hope they throw us a curve ball because if this is true, it's not a very creative explanation. They could have come up with something much cooler, IMO.
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Old 03-24-2010, 11:26 AM   #4792
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Was Season Three or Four when John was told to kill his father?

Once he was confronted with Anthony Cooper, Cooper said "Don't you know where we are?" with a laugh.

John couldn't bring it upon himself to kill Cooper, so he convinced Sawyer to do it.

Much like MIB convincing Ben to kill Jacob.

But the main reason I bring this up is that despite the show runners claims that the island isn't hell or purgatory, they've been dropping plenty of clues along the way that it IS hell or purgatory, with Cooper's proclamation, the fact that many of the Losties have murdered and now, last night's episode.

I hope they throw us a curve ball because if this is true, it's not a very creative explanation. They could have come up with something much cooler, IMO.
yeah, its hell or purgatory would be lame.
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So...Anthony Cooper is Sawyer's "Sawyer" and Lockes "father"?
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Old 03-24-2010, 11:56 AM   #4794
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Cooper was a con artist; conned Locke out of his kidney. Don' think he was really his father; just conned Locke into thinking he was.

and Cooper conned Sawyer's mom (i think); which caused Sawyers dad to off himslef and his wife.
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Cooper was a con artist; conned Locke out of his kidney. Don' think he was really his father; just conned Locke into thinking he was.

and Cooper conned Sawyer's mom (i think); which caused Sawyers dad to off himslef and his wife.
He is Lockes father
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He is Lockes father
oh.
i thought he was just pretending to be in order to get his kidney.

...this show requires 'notes' lol.
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Old 03-24-2010, 12:24 PM   #4797
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Cooper was a con artist; conned Locke out of his kidney. Don' think he was really his father; just conned Locke into thinking he was.

and Cooper conned Sawyer's mom (i think); which caused Sawyers dad to off himslef and his wife.
That's exactly what I said in less words......just a yes or no question. I hadn't realized they were the same guy.

I can't wait for the series DVD to come out, I need to the whole thing.
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oh.
i thought he was just pretending to be in order to get his kidney.

...this show requires 'notes' lol.
Well, if there was any ambiguity, doubtful as the familial match is the central reason Sawyer sought to con him in the first place, there's the fact that he's still Locke's father [and apparently on good terms] in the sideways world.
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That was a fairly anticlimactic and stupid explanation for the destruction of the statue.
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Was Season Three or Four when John was told to kill his father?

Once he was confronted with Anthony Cooper, Cooper said "Don't you know where we are?" with a laugh.

John couldn't bring it upon himself to kill Cooper, so he convinced Sawyer to do it.

Much like MIB convincing Ben to kill Jacob.

But the main reason I bring this up is that despite the show runners claims that the island isn't hell or purgatory, they've been dropping plenty of clues along the way that it IS hell or purgatory, with Cooper's proclamation, the fact that many of the Losties have murdered and now, last night's episode.

I hope they throw us a curve ball because if this is true, it's not a very creative explanation. They could have come up with something much cooler, IMO.
I hear you, man. And I agree. If that's the ultimate "answer" or explanation... I'll be a disappointed as well.

But I think these little references are again more metaphorical. I also think they could be sublte little inside jokes to the fans.

Maybe I'm naive, but I just can't believe they're literally in Hell. If they are what was the point of Jacob slamming Richard into the ocean? I don't know. Fingers crossed.

I still have faith. But I completely understand your trepidation.
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