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The Official "Lost" the series discussion

I figured I would start a thread for this and see what happens....there seemed to be quite a few viewers on the board for this show the past few weeks.....I like the direction the show is taking so far......episode 3 tonight at 7 central on ABC....
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Old 03-31-2010, 09:45 AM   #4846
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I just got a new cable box and it freakin froze 5 mins into LOST... man i was pissed, from what i have heard it wasnt that exciting of an episode.. Ill have to catch it somewhere online tonight..
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Old 03-31-2010, 11:48 AM   #4847
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What has me bummed is that on DarkUFO people who have read the scripts, seen dailies, etc., have 3 remaining episodes ranked significantly below this last one.
Then I hope they know something that we don't, cause I wasn't that impressed with this one
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Old 03-31-2010, 11:58 AM   #4848
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That was a pretty sucky episode. Almost filler material. Can't the writers keep up the suspense the last 10 weeks of the show?
Wow.

Last night's episode delivered the first evidence of the two time lines converging.

Sun didn't lose the ability to speak English because she hit her head, she can't speak English because in the Sideways Flash, she wasn't trying to escape Jin and thus never learned English.

Jin OTOH, CAN speak English in the Sideways Flash, which is why he has the ability on the Island.

Smokey is contained on the Island by water. He can't just turn into the Smoke Monster and travel at will. He's restricted to "human" form.

There was a scene where Sun looked into a mirror and was appalled at the image (of what, we don't know).

Now we know how Mikhail lost his eye.

Keamy's not dead.

And finally, Desmond was the person captured and brought back to the island by Widmore. This is particularly interesting because it appears that Desmond never went to the Island in the Sideways flash, so his importance has yet to be revealed.

I thought it was an excellent episode.
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Old 03-31-2010, 12:36 PM   #4849
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Sun didn't lose the ability to speak English because she hit her head, she can't speak English because in the Sideways Flash, she wasn't trying to escape Jin and thus never learned English.

Jin OTOH, CAN speak English in the Sideways Flash, which is why he has the ability on the Island.
I think I'm going to have to go back and watch a few episodes to refresh my memory....couple questions about the above:

#1 - I thought Sun COULD speak English in the sideways flash...or maybe I just assumed that she could because:
A: At the airport, when the customs people found the money, one of them said "Do you speak English?"....and it appear Sun was about to speak.
B: Just before Keemy came into the room while she was talking to Jin, she said something along the lines of "Ok, I need to tell you something" which I thought was going to be "I can speak English". Not sure why I felt that, but I did.

#2 - Refresh my memory of Jin speaking English in the sideways flash. What did he say & where? I just can't remember him saying anything other than "No English."
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Old 03-31-2010, 01:23 PM   #4850
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I think I'm going to have to go back and watch a few episodes to refresh my memory....couple questions about the above:

#1 - I thought Sun COULD speak English in the sideways flash...or maybe I just assumed that she could because:
A: At the airport, when the customs people found the money, one of them said "Do you speak English?"....and it appear Sun was about to speak.
B: Just before Keemy came into the room while she was talking to Jin, she said something along the lines of "Ok, I need to tell you something" which I thought was going to be "I can speak English". Not sure why I felt that, but I did.

#2 - Refresh my memory of Jin speaking English in the sideways flash. What did he say & where? I just can't remember him saying anything other than "No English."
Sun didn't speak English and Jin lied.



Plus, they're not married.

Oh, and since "Kwon" was revealed to be a candidate, I've thought that it refers to neither Sun nor Jin but their daughter.
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Old 03-31-2010, 01:58 PM   #4851
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B: Just before Keemy came into the room while she was talking to Jin, she said something along the lines of "Ok, I need to tell you something" which I thought was going to be "I can speak English". Not sure why I felt that, but I did.
Nevermind, just remembered what she was going to tell him...."I'm pregnant."
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Old 03-31-2010, 06:33 PM   #4852
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Wow.

Last night's episode delivered the first evidence of the two time lines converging.

Sun didn't lose the ability to speak English because she hit her head, she can't speak English because in the Sideways Flash, she wasn't trying to escape Jin and thus never learned English.

Jin OTOH, CAN speak English in the Sideways Flash, which is why he has the ability on the Island.

Smokey is contained on the Island by water. He can't just turn into the Smoke Monster and travel at will. He's restricted to "human" form.

There was a scene where Sun looked into a mirror and was appalled at the image (of what, we don't know).

Now we know how Mikhail lost his eye.

Keamy's not dead.

And finally, Desmond was the person captured and brought back to the island by Widmore. This is particularly interesting because it appears that Desmond never went to the Island in the Sideways flash, so his importance has yet to be revealed.

I thought it was an excellent episode.
I agree it was a great episode but one thing I dont is Sun's reason not speaking English If that was the case then how can she be speaking english up til that moment? The sideways has always been going on so wouldnt you think she wouldnt be able to speak english all this time?

I do agree on Desmond
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Old 03-31-2010, 06:41 PM   #4853
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Wow.

Last night's episode delivered the first evidence of the two time lines converging.

Sun didn't lose the ability to speak English because she hit her head, she can't speak English because in the Sideways Flash, she wasn't trying to escape Jin and thus never learned English.

Jin OTOH, CAN speak English in the Sideways Flash, which is why he has the ability on the Island.

Smokey is contained on the Island by water. He can't just turn into the Smoke Monster and travel at will. He's restricted to "human" form.

There was a scene where Sun looked into a mirror and was appalled at the image (of what, we don't know).

Now we know how Mikhail lost his eye.

Keamy's not dead.

And finally, Desmond was the person captured and brought back to the island by Widmore. This is particularly interesting because it appears that Desmond never went to the Island in the Sideways flash, so his importance has yet to be revealed.

I thought it was an excellent episode.
I distinctly remember Sun being the one who learned English in the first 3 seasons via flashbacks.
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Old 03-31-2010, 06:48 PM   #4854
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Wow.

Now we know how Mikhail lost his eye.

Keamy's not dead.

And finally, Desmond was the person captured and brought back to the island by Widmore. This is particularly interesting because it appears that Desmond never went to the Island in the Sideways flash, so his importance has yet to be revealed.

I thought it was an excellent episode.

I was under the impression that the Sideways flashes were an alternate reality, where the island didn't exist, not a look into the past. Mikhail looked pretty dead anyway, getting shot in eye at close range and all, just a clever shot placement by writers, as if to say "This dude is just destined to be a one-eyed bastid, wherever he exists"
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I was under the impression that the Sideways flashes were an alternate reality, where the island didn't exist, not a look into the past. Mikhail looked pretty dead anyway, getting shot in eye at close range and all, just a clever shot placement by writers, as if to say "This dude is just destined to be a one-eyed bastid, wherever he exists"
I've hand the impression since the first flashsideways that it was the story that will happen based on what happens on the island.
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Sun didn't speak English and Jin lied.



Plus, they're not married.

Oh, and since "Kwon" was revealed to be a candidate, I've thought that it refers to neither Sun nor Jin but their daughter.
You might have a point with their daughter
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First thing I thought about when I saw Desmond was a flash sideways, because he has forgotten everyone's name etc, before when he was in the helicopter leaving for the ship last season.

I guess I kind of feel like the other people have had the same thing happen to them?

I didn't get too much from tonight, the only thing I found interesting was that the timeline was going backwards. As in we are now seeing why Jin was in the closet when Syiad shot the guys in the kitchen.

Before we saw things in order that they happen, now it's almost reverse.

Its not going backwards Every side story basically picks up at the same point when they got off the plane
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I agree it was a great episode but one thing I dont is Sun's reason not speaking English If that was the case then how can she be speaking english up til that moment? The sideways has always been going on so wouldnt you think she wouldnt be able to speak english all this time?

I do agree on Desmond
I think the Sideways are happening parallel to what's happening on the Island. But, I think the two realities are beginning to converge and since we just realized that Sun can't speak English in the Sideways, it's affected her on Island.

It's all happening in real time: Two different realities are about to become one.

And as I've said all along, Desmond (The Constant), is the key, which is why Widmore brought him to the Island.
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I distinctly remember Sun being the one who learned English in the first 3 seasons via flashbacks.
But that was because she wanted to leave Jin and go to American on her own.

In the Sideways, he loves Jin yet isn't married to him. There's no reason for her to learn English and go to America, so she doesn't.
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I was under the impression that the Sideways flashes were an alternate reality, where the island didn't exist, not a look into the past. Mikhail looked pretty dead anyway, getting shot in eye at close range and all, just a clever shot placement by writers, as if to say "This dude is just destined to be a one-eyed bastid, wherever he exists"
I think it's an alternate reality that's slowly converging with the Island reality.

At some point soon, both realities will become one.

Mikhail may be dead but who knows for certain? I thought Keamy was dead but apparently not.

But what the show is proving is that your destiny is your destiny.
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