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Old 10-06-2004, 05:29 PM  
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The Official "Lost" the series discussion

I figured I would start a thread for this and see what happens....there seemed to be quite a few viewers on the board for this show the past few weeks.....I like the direction the show is taking so far......episode 3 tonight at 7 central on ABC....
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Old 04-15-2010, 05:05 PM   #5011
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I don't believe Des killed him either...it is simply a way to get Locke and Jack back together - although I do think Des enjoyed it . Of course Des isn't dead either...we see Sayid trying to put a bullet through him in the previews for next week.

What I believe will happen - and none of this is spoiler worthy cause it is just simply what I believe:


I believe there will be a real "sacrifice" that could take place on this show...and it ain't gonna lead to a happy ending.

Anyway, I think Jack and Juliette were married in the ATL and have a son together and of course Juliette dies on the island.

Hugo and Libby are together in the ATL. Libby dies on the island.

I think Sawyer and Kate get together in the ATL and Kate will die on the island - prolly attempting to kill Locke - or maybe just gets blown up with bad dynamite .

Sayid and Shannon will, imo, get together in the ATL...are we starting to see a pattern here.

Penny, according to this pattern will die on the island as well.

What I haven't put together is the kid and how he plays into all of this...Perhaps he is a young smoke monster or a young Jacob...or whatever.

Anyway the last two shows are entitled What they died for. I think that means Des, Jack, Sawyer, Sayid, and Hugo die keeping MIB from leaving the island.

They might even have a choice...be happy in ATL or die saving the original time line...which might be kind of cool. Anyway that is my theory based on nothing but supposition and my preference for dark endings.
Everyone keeps harping on about the bolded sentence. I don't see a shred of evidence for it.

Now, wanting Locke to flash on the island about the alt universe (or the alt Locke to flash about his possessed body) makes a lot of sense given the other flashing we've seen.
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Old 04-15-2010, 05:20 PM   #5012
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I think Des's goal was to awaken Locke to the truth. Just like Charlie did for Des. I think a happy by-product of the "attack" is that Locke will potentially go the hospital. Probably to be opporated on by Jack. I think Sun is probably headed there as well. I think this is fortunte for Des because he wants to awaken all 815ers. So, ultimately, this will serve multiple purposes.

But I don't think Des was thinking, "Hey, if I run this dude over with my car he will be in the same room with Jack! Crikey! That's what I have to do!!"
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Old 04-15-2010, 06:51 PM   #5013
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Probably not the case... BUT my first thought was that killing Locke in the ALT timeline would replace Flocke with the real Locke on the island timeline... and MIB would again be noncorporeal. Doubtful that is the case, but just my first reaction...
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Old 04-15-2010, 08:22 PM   #5014
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But I don't think Des was thinking, "Hey, if I run this dude over with my car he will be in the same room with Jack! Crikey! That's what I have to do!!"
I lol'd.
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Old 04-15-2010, 08:26 PM   #5015
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Everyone keeps harping on about the bolded sentence. I don't see a shred of evidence for it.

Now, wanting Locke to flash on the island about the alt universe (or the alt Locke to flash about his possessed body) makes a lot of sense given the other flashing we've seen.
Jack has been the main character from the start. I think it'll be a Jack/MIB in some form showdown at the end.

In an interview yesterday Hugo said that MIB/Flocke doesn't lie. I think he's trying to get the lostees together to kill them all at one time. The trick will be tricking one of them into doing it since choices have to be made of free will and he said he wouldn't harm them.
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Old 04-16-2010, 08:41 AM   #5016
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Jack has been the main character from the start. I think it'll be a Jack/MIB in some form showdown at the end.

In an interview yesterday Hugo said that MIB/Flocke doesn't lie. I think he's trying to get the lostees together to kill them all at one time. The trick will be tricking one of them into doing it since choices have to be made of free will and he said he wouldn't harm them.
yeah this season has been more and more focus on free will and choice. So no, locke/MIB won't actually pull the trigger to kill them but just set it up to where it happens. It's still dependant on the individual to make the decision. Yeah I could see the final fatal moment being one of the major charectors is going to kill all the rest and another major charector steps up and saves the day and dies in the process.
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Old 04-17-2010, 03:53 PM   #5017
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What to make of previous promises that this is not purgatory and all answers will be scientific and not fantasy?

I mean the Whispering Dead of the island suggests purgatory is at least in the mix.
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Old 04-17-2010, 04:00 PM   #5018
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What to make of previous promises that this is not purgatory and all answers will be scientific and not fantasy?

I mean the Whispering Dead of the island suggests purgatory is at least in the mix.
I think it's a "purgatory". Of what kind, I have no idea, especially considering all of the ancient Egyptian artifact, hieroglyphics, statues and what not.

Most people immediately thought it was purgatory after the first few episodes, but the producers immediately dismissed it. They couldn't let everyone know that it WAS a purgatory, thus giving away their "secret".

It's telling to me because no one has dismissed the idea that the island isn't Hell, as Richard so described it. Also, Hurley says to Michael "The voices. They're from people that can't move on", meaning it's some kind of "holding place" between Heaven and Hell. Again, that hasn't been dismissed by anyone.
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Old 04-18-2010, 08:21 AM   #5019
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"we were not lying, it's not purgatory"

That rises above 'dismissal.'
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Old 04-18-2010, 09:18 AM   #5020
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"we were not lying, it's not purgatory"

That rises above 'dismissal.'
Correct, the Producers went way beyond trying to conceal a premise of the show.

It wasn't a leap of faith or having a very active imagination to have your first thought be that the island is some kind of purgurtory. They had to know thats what everyone would think right out of the gate. If your goal was to reveal its really purgatory at the end then you needed to conceal or misdirect much more often and earlier in the series.
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Old 04-19-2010, 10:38 AM   #5021
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its probably just a weird island. thats my theory
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its probably just a weird island. thats my theory
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Wow, I guess everyone thought the same thing about last nights epi as I did since there has been no posts on it and this thread was on page two before my reply. Epi was fairly pointless IMO. Not much occurred.
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Old 04-21-2010, 08:07 AM   #5025
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Wow, I guess everyone thought the same thing about last nights epi as I did since there has been no posts on it and this thread was on page two before my reply. Epi was fairly pointless IMO. Not much occurred.
The epi did nothing. Everyone knew John and Jack were getting together in the ATL and all they did on the isle was get the boat and fling a few mortar shells so that John and Jack could get together on the island.

Most interesting part of the whole show was the convo between Sayid and Des.

Time suck till the finale...after the last two GREAT epi's I was really disappointed in this one.

For the relationship lovers, (my wife, for example) I think it moved toward Kate and Sawyer becoming the real thing.
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