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Old 10-20-2004, 11:06 PM  
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The swiftboat website? Check out this one.

http://www.bushrelativesforkerry.com

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http://www.bushrelativesforkerry.com

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Old 10-20-2004, 11:10 PM   #2
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Old 10-20-2004, 11:14 PM   #3
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They must be gay.
Or conscientious... Ya think?
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Old 10-21-2004, 10:20 AM   #4
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Old 10-21-2004, 11:45 AM   #5
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If you look at the family tree you see that they are related to a family named Bush, not necessarily THE Bush family that running for office.

I wonder how many of Kerry's relatives, down 6-7 levels in the family tree, are voting for Bush?
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Old 10-21-2004, 11:49 AM   #6
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If you look at the family tree you see that they are related to a family named Bush, not necessarily THE Bush family that running for office.

I wonder how many of Kerry's relatives, down 6-7 levels in the family tree, are voting for Bush?
They list themselves as "second cousins" but don't name their relationships or parents. I can't find a single one listed on a legitimate website.

I do think it is ironic that the bosox fans are passing themselves as Bushites changing their mind and their excuses range all the way to "his grandparents were brother and sister". But TJ says it is not nice to point out wacko liars, we should still listen to their message.
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Old 10-21-2004, 12:19 PM   #7
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They list themselves as "second cousins" but don't name their relationships or parents. I can't find a single one listed on a legitimate website.

I do think it is ironic that the bosox fans are passing themselves as Bushites changing their mind and their excuses range all the way to "his grandparents were brother and sister". But TJ says it is not nice to point out wacko liars, we should still listen to their message.
If the website is truly real, they may be from a Bush family, but not THE Bush family.

What they said was typical leftist liberal crap, IMO.
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Old 10-21-2004, 01:59 PM   #8
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If the website is truly real, they may be from a Bush family, but not THE Bush family.

What they said was typical leftist liberal crap, IMO.
Oh I get it. The swifties, on the other hand, are all Kerry's cousins.
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Old 10-22-2004, 07:33 AM   #9
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Oh I get it. The swifties, on the other hand, are all Kerry's cousins.
I know you are attempting to make a corelation between two different groups that are not related to the candidates. The difference is that many of the SBVFT served at the same time as Kerry and the rest served in the same capacity as Kerry. Now the unrelated Bush family?

You don't really have a clue except that you are continuing your hatred for the Presidential Bush family. You remain pathetic.
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Old 10-22-2004, 08:01 AM   #10
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Hey, speaking of the Swift Vets, this is a good one:

http://swift3.he.net/~swift3/theyserved.mov
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Old 10-22-2004, 08:02 AM   #11
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This one too, hadn't seen it before:

http://swift3.he.net/~swift3/why.mov
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Old 10-22-2004, 08:18 AM   #12
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I know you are attempting to make a corelation between two different groups that are not related to the candidates. The difference is that many of the SBVFT served at the same time as Kerry and the rest served in the same capacity as Kerry. Now the unrelated Bush family?

You don't really have a clue except that you are continuing your hatred for the Presidential Bush family. You remain pathetic.
To me, pathetic is a blind sheep. I know a couple of good ophtalmologists. PM me if you want their phone number.
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Old 10-22-2004, 08:27 AM   #13
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Oh I get it. The swifties, on the other hand, are all Kerry's cousins.
Well actually they could have been considered almost blood brothers when Kerry was over in Vietnam. Fighting the same cause, facing the same dangers, etc.

Kerry only became the black sheep when he came home and testified of all the atrocities he witnessed. After that the family didn't take it too well when they came home and were spat upon. Kind of rubs you the wrong way you know?
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Old 10-22-2004, 08:37 AM   #14
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Kerry only became the black sheep when he came home and testified of all the atrocities he witnessed. After that the family didn't take it too well when they came home and were spat upon. Kind of rubs you the wrong way you know?
So let me see. THERE WERE ATROCITIES as your post here admits. Kerry just should have shut his mouth and not testified to the truth..... What was I thinking. Bad Kerry!...Bad bad Kerry!!
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Old 10-22-2004, 08:44 AM   #15
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I especially like the part with the swiftie wearing his congressional medal of honor.

I did a search and here is a write-up on him:

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George Day was a 41 year old veteran of combat in World War II and Korea who was flying a mission in his third war on an August morning in 1967, when an enemy rocket slammed into his F-100, destroying the aircraft and setting in motion a chain of events that would turn into a nightmare that would last for the next six years.

As Major Day ejected from the battered aircraft, his body slammed into its fuselage, breaking his arm in three places and badly spraining his left knee. Perhaps the only stroke of fortune for him that day was that his parachute opened. Upon reaching the ground he was immediately captured and severely beaten. The torture continued for two days during most of which Day was hung upside down by ropes. Finally, an enemy medic crudely set his broken arm and the torture let up slightly. So severe were his injuries and so swollen was his left knee that Day's captors considered him incapable of resistance or escape and only loosely bound him for three more days in a damp cave.

On the sixth night, Day escaped. Barefoot and injured he traveled south for two days, both feet repeatedly cut by sharp rocks and battle debris. Later he would recount the sounds of his pursuers and their dogs all around him day and night, but through a great will to survive he managed to stay one step ahead of them.

On his second night of freedom, unable to continue without rest, the 41 year old pilot sought refuge under a bush. His fitful sleep was suddenly shattered by the nearby explosion of a rocket or bomb, he never knew which. The detonation was so close it threw his body into the air and ruptured his eardrums and sinuses. Shrapnel ripped into his right leg cutting large, open wounds. Vomiting blood, disoriented and with no equilibrium, Major Day languished in the brush for two more days. Then he resumed his trek south to what he hoped would be freedom.

For several days, meager meals of berries and frogs swallowed alive provided the sustenance he needed to continue. After more than a week of struggle Day finally reached the Ben Hai River marking the boundaries of the Demilitarized Zone. Hiding from enemy patrols during the day, he left the cover of jungle that night and used a bamboo log to float across the river and into "no-man's-land". For another week he avoided enemy patrols and several times came heartbreakingly close to attracting the attention of American helicopters and reconnaissance airplanes. With unbelievable strength of character he continued south in hopes of reaching an American patrol that had ventured into the zone.

Somewhere between his 12th to 15th day of escape he began to hear the nearby sounds of American artillery and helicopters. During the darkness of night he continued until the basecamp was in sight. Not wanting to approach the friendly fortress during the darkness that might make the defenders mistake him for an enemy, Day lay down in the jungle to await dawn. Shortly before the sun arose to afford him rescue he looked up to see a North Vietnamese soldier pointing an AK-47 rifle at him. Attempting to escape yet again, Day was shot in his left hand and thigh. A day and a half later he was recaptured and returned to his original prison camp.

Refused medical treatment, Day's gunshot wounds festered and became infected. He was tortured for 48 hours without rest before the enemy finally believed they had broken his will. Day had answered their questions. What they didn't realize was that the man who appeared so broken on the outside had answered every important question with false information.

Two months later, totally destroyed physically, Day was sent north to the infamous Hoa Lo prison camp, where further torture continued.

Most Americans are already aware that conditions at the "Hanoi Hilton" were barbaric. American prisoners faced isolation, humiliation, and torture that lasted for year after year. As the war in Vietnam came to a close however, the North Vietnamese captors realized that the release of American P.O.W.s was imminent and relaxed their vigil. American P.O.W.s responded by becoming more daring in their resistance.

In February, 1971 several American prisoners at the Hoa Loa camp gathered for a forbidden religious service. Suddenly they were interrupted by the enraged enemy guards. As the guards burst into the meeting room with rifles pointed at the prisoners, one of the Americans stood to his feet. Ragged, battered but unbroken, it was George Day. Looking into the muzzles of the enemy rifles he began to sing. The song was "The Star Spangled Banner", our National Anthem.

Next to him, another prisoner stood. Commander James Bond Stockdale was the ranking American in the prison and he lended his voice to Day's anthem of freedom. Soon the other prisoners joined the refrain, and then from throughout the entire prison camp, came the sounds of others. Stockdale, who would join George "Bud" Day in receiving Medals of Honor five years later wrote that although he was punished for the episode, it was exhilarating: "Our minds were now free and we knew it."
A pic of Day and Stockdale receiving their Congressional Medal of Honor from President Ford:

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