Congrats to BushBaby. Post-Election Thoughts

[Amnorix]

I have not read the various articles in detail yet, but it appears clear that George Bush will retain the Presidency for another 4 years.

I have the following post-election thoughts:

1. Amazing that all this money and effort could be spent and we're basically going to be in the exact same situation for the next 2 years as we were in the last two, other than a very small handful of House and Senate seats.

2. I've said before, and will say again, that the winner of the '04 election has a very tough road to hoe over the next 4 years. None of Iraq, the economy and deficit, nuclear proliferation and terrorism are going to be easily tamed. If not handled well, the winner could easily find himself and his party swept out of power in '08. I do not wish for bad things to happen, but let us simply say that the challenge will be great, and we'll just have to wait and see.

3. The Neo-cons get to keep their guy and their agenda for another 4 years. The next 4 years will most likely determine whether the Republican party ends up dominated by neo-cons or traditional conservatives for the next generation.

4. If Bush can effectuate permanent Social Security reform during the next 4 years, then I may end up being reasonably pleased at his re-election. There's little doubt that Democrats are completely paralyzed on the issue. Unfortunately, I fear that Bush won't be willing to take the political beating in light of the fact that the Democrats could filibuster the whole thing in the Senate, if they felt the need to score political points at the cost of the country's overall well-being.

5. Iraq (and any other country he decides to invade in the next 4 years) will be Bush's legacy. He has the opportunity to make it either the shining glorious highpoint of his administration, or else to watch it become his Vietnam. Whether Bush is thought of in the same light as FDR or LBJ for his wartime administration skills will be decided by the time of our next election.

6. McCain-Feingold is a failure, I think. I believe I now favor completely federally funded elections. It would be worth it to remove money as the path to the corridors of power, and to remove all these idiotic third parties that are injecting themselves into politics in a way that has not been seen in the last hundred years. But this whole area is sticky and fraught with peril, and I won't pretend I have all the answers.

[Ultra Peanut]

and to remove all these idiotic third parties

"Options bad. Same ol', same ol' good."

[KCTitus]

I've a question...

is it: 'road to hoe' or 'row to hoe'?

I allways thought it the latter, but wasnt sure so I never used that metaphor before.

[Amnorix]

Apparently, it is row to hoe, which makes perfect sense (much more so than "road to hoe", which now that I think about it makes no sense at all).

From a website discussing "common errors in the English language":

http://www.wsu.edu:8080/~brians/errors/road.html

[KCTitus]

Originally Posted by Amnorix

Apparently, it is row to hoe, which makes perfect sense (much more so than "road to hoe", which now that I think about it makes no sense at all).

From a website discussing "common errors in the English language":

http://www.wsu.edu:8080/~brians/errors/road.html

It's kind of like 'hear hear' or is it 'here here'...I think it's the former, but saying it is easier than typing it.

Sorry, didnt mean to hijack...Im just weird like that.

[Radar Chief]

Originally Posted by Amnorix

Apparently, it is row to hoe, which makes perfect sense (much more so than "road to hoe", which now that I think about it makes no sense at all).

From a website discussing "common errors in the English language":

http://www.wsu.edu:8080/~brians/errors/road.html

I’d think that’d depend on your definition of “hoe”.

[Amnorix]

Originally Posted by Radar Chief

I’d think that’d depend on your definition of “hoe”.

"Row of ho's" is something totally different...

[srvy]

Thats the way Clinton uses it "What road to take to da Hoes

[Ari Chi3fs]

well, It doesnt look good... 4 more years for President Satan? This is gonna suck. I doubt we see another election... Mass Carnage coming your way!!! Be there!!!

[memyselfI]

Originally Posted by Amnorix

I have not read the various articles in detail yet, but it appears clear that George Bush will retain the Presidency for another 4 years.

I have the following post-election thoughts:



3. The Neo-cons get to keep their guy and their agenda for another 4 years. The next 4 years will most likely determine whether the Republican party ends up dominated by neo-cons or traditional conservatives for the next generation.

4. If Bush can effectuate permanent Social Security reform during the next 4 years, then I may end up being reasonably pleased at his re-election. There's little doubt that Democrats are completely paralyzed on the issue. Unfortunately, I fear that Bush won't be willing to take the political beating in light of the fact that the Democrats could filibuster the whole thing in the Senate, if they felt the need to score political points at the cost of the country's overall well-being.

5. Iraq (and any other country he decides to invade in the next 4 years) will be Bush's legacy. He has the opportunity to make it either the shining glorious highpoint of his administration, or else to watch it become his Vietnam. Whether Bush is thought of in the same light as FDR or LBJ for his wartime administration skills will be decided by the time of our next election.

I think the silver lining in this for the Dems is that Iraq is truly the Cons issue to sink or swim for the Country. They started it in full control of the government. They'll have it under their full control for another four years. If it is an utter disaster or unmitigated success it ALL falls on THEIR shoulders...

As someone who is/has been/will be against the war I think it's only just that the person/party who broke it has to find a way to fix it.

I feel rather liberated that my party won't be held responsible, the media cannot be held responsbile, and 'division' in the country cannot be held responsible...

it's ALL on DUHbya.

[OldTownChief]

Bout like when some say "I could care less" as opposed to "I couldn't care less"

I I could care less it would mean that I could care some.

[OldTownChief]

Originally Posted by memyselfI

I think the silver lining in this for the Dems is that Iraq is truly the Cons issue to sink or swim for the Country. They started it in full control of the government. They'll have it under their full control for another four years. If it is an utter disaster or unmitigated success it ALL falls on THEIR shoulders...

As someone who is/has been/will be against the war I think it's only just that the person/party who broke it has to find a way to fix it.

Four more years worth of your terrorist friends are gonna fry.

[memyselfI]

Originally Posted by OldTownChief

Four more years worth of your terrorist friends are gonna fry.

Oh, I'm sure there will be frying all around given the nature of US foreign policy...

[Ultra Peanut]

So how'd you celebrate, duhnise?

[memyselfI]

Originally Posted by Psicosis

So how'd you celebrate, duhnise?

By realizing that the Dems, the media, even the 'divided' country is off the hook in Iraq...

I feel soooooooo liberated. I thought I might be bummed but I'm actually rather relieved. And compared to 2000 and Superbowl XXXVII...

this ain't no major disappointment.