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Old 11-03-2004, 01:21 PM  
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Mandate? Kerry wins the moderate vote...

seems to me that if there was a 'mandate' DUHbya would have won the moderates AND the conservatives in his 3+ million advantage. Kerry won them. DUHbya's turn out of conservatives was the difference.





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http://www.cnn.com/ELECTION/2004/pag.../epolls.0.html
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Old 11-03-2004, 01:22 PM   #2
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All this tells me is that alot of people who view themselves as moderate, probably aren't.
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Old 11-03-2004, 01:23 PM   #3
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DUHnise is struggling mightily to find some way to say that Bush doesn't have a mandate.

STFD, , and face it. Your platform was rejected by voters, again.
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Old 11-03-2004, 01:25 PM   #4
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seems to me that if there was a 'mandate' DUHbya would have won the moderates AND the conservatives in his 3+ million advantage. Kerry won them. DUHbya's turn out of conservatives was the difference.





Check for vote by ideology.

http://www.cnn.com/ELECTION/2004/pag.../epolls.0.html
Tell you what Denise, go ahead and give us your definition of a mandate, and we'll go from there.
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Old 11-03-2004, 01:25 PM   #5
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seems to me that if there was a 'mandate' DUHbya would have won the moderates AND the conservatives in his 3+ million advantage. Kerry won them. DUHbya's turn out of conservatives was the difference.





Check for vote by ideology.

http://www.cnn.com/ELECTION/2004/pag.../epolls.0.html

Give it a rest. We lost, by a thumping margin (though not a true landslide).

It's OVER, Memy.
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Old 11-03-2004, 01:26 PM   #6
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All this tells me is that alot of people who view themselves as moderate, probably aren't.
I thought so too until I saw the Protestant and church frequency numbers.

DUHbya got out his Christian Coalition base more than Kerry got out any of his base...
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Old 11-03-2004, 01:27 PM   #7
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Give it a rest. We lost, by a thumping margin (though not a true landslide).

It's OVER, Memy.
Oh, the VOTE is over...

the battle over the consequence of the vote has JUST BEGUN.
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Old 11-03-2004, 01:28 PM   #8
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All this tells me is that alot of people who view themselves as moderate, probably aren't.
Completely agree.

What people say, and what they do are often a conflict......
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Old 11-03-2004, 01:30 PM   #10
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Oh, the VOTE is over...

the battle over the consequence of the vote has JUST BEGUN.


You seen the Senate and House numbers?

Please.

This is now a one party government, for all intents and purposes. There is no ideological balance left, and any "battle" you are envisioning is insde your head...only this, and nothing more.

Again, the GOP now has an effective ideological monopoly on the government.

History, though, has shown how THAT turns out.
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Old 11-03-2004, 01:31 PM   #11
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All this tells me is that alot of people who view themselves as moderate, probably aren't.
Something tells me D knows this as well, but hey, gold star for the spin, though!
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Old 11-03-2004, 01:31 PM   #12
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seems to me that if there was a 'mandate' DUHbya would have won the moderates AND the conservatives in his 3+ million advantage. Kerry won them. DUHbya's turn out of conservatives was the difference.





Check for vote by ideology.

http://www.cnn.com/ELECTION/2004/pag.../epolls.0.html

Well amybe next time your party can get all the crack addicted minority out of work social welfare gutter slobs off the sauce long enough to punch a card.

Bribe them w/ free hot soup and a pint of grog and youll win by eleventy billion+.
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Old 11-03-2004, 01:32 PM   #13
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the battle over the consequence of the vote has JUST BEGUN.
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Old 11-03-2004, 01:32 PM   #14
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You seen the Senate and House numbers?

Please.

This is now a one party government, for all intents and purposes. There is no ideological balance left, and any "battle" you are envisioning is insde your head...only this, and nothing more.

Again, the GOP now has an effective ideological monopoly on the government.

History, though, has shown how THAT turns out.
Look, we can go into possible irrelevence silently and passively as they (the Cons) hope we do or kicking and screaming as they would do if the tables were turned...

have you forgotten their attitudes when the tables were turned?
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Look, we can go into possible irrelevence silently and passively as they (the Cons) hope we do or kicking and screaming as they would do if the tables were turned...
Either way works for me.
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