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High scoring offense = crappy defense 2 16.67%
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Old 11-23-2004, 12:12 AM  
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Offense or Defense?

You have two choices to choose from.

A) 2003 Chiefs explosive offense = horrendous defense

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B) 1995 Chiefs MartyBall offense = dominating D

Which one do you perfer?
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Old 11-23-2004, 12:14 AM   #2
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A great defense beats a great offense 9/10 times. Give me Martyball with the killer D. We put fear into offenses' hearts with DT, Smith, Hasty, etc. Now those days seem like a distant memory.
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Old 11-23-2004, 12:15 AM   #3
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Definitly the dominating D. It can beat any team in the league while a dominate O is much less dependable.
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Old 11-23-2004, 12:17 AM   #4
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Defense, 100% of the time. Those playoff failures during the Marty years are just mind-boggling to me because of it, that defense was so good....
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Old 11-23-2004, 12:18 AM   #5
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Old 11-23-2004, 01:14 AM   #6
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Neither! coz you have to have at least a little O to win. Martyball proved that to us.

But, to answer.... Defense! Like in most sports a GREAT DEFNESE shuts down offense. A great D can get lucky and return a fumble/interception for a T.D. much better than a great O with a sorry D can stop the other team.

Look at how many ordinary O just ran over our D. You can't expect your O to be prefection. I mean ... for them to score a TD each time they touch the ball. There will be misses and puts ... or interceptions... So, we are exhibit A!!!!
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Old 11-23-2004, 01:20 AM   #7
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I don't think I can vote in this poll.

I can tolerate the Chiefs losing games. Really, I can. Don't tell my wife I said that or she'd call me a liar. Seriously, I can handle a loss. The shit that pisses me off is watching 10 guys trying to stop a QB sneak on 3rd and 1 and it works. The pile stops short of the first down marker. Then #25 comes into the picture and stands there. Then the pile inches forward another 6 inches to gain the first down. That's just one example of not playing hard. I don't know how many examples I saw tonight - Easy was standing around during a Hall return. He had made his 1 block and stood there while Hall fought to evade a defender Easy could have easily blocked. Don't get me started on missed tackles and dropped passes. That's the shit I can't handle. I can watch the Chiefs get beaten by a better team. No problem. I can't stand watching the Chiefs give games away. Nope. That shit drives me crazy!
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Old 11-23-2004, 01:20 AM   #8
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Baltimore Ravens folks.

Besides, I believe if you have one or two very good-to-great players on offense you can create a gameplan to be at least average on offense. *cough* 2001 Patriots *cough*
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Old 11-23-2004, 01:27 AM   #9
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I don't think I can vote in this poll.

I can tolerate the Chiefs losing games. Really, I can. Don't tell my wife I said that or she'd call me a liar. Seriously, I can handle a loss. The shit that pisses me off is watching 10 guys trying to stop a QB sneak on 3rd and 1 and it works. The pile stops short of the first down marker. Then #25 comes into the picture and stands there. Then the pile inches forward another 6 inches to gain the first down. That's just one example of not playing hard. I don't know how many examples I saw tonight - Easy was standing around during a Hall return. He had made his 1 block and stood there while Hall fought to evade a defender Easy could have easily blocked. Don't get me started on missed tackles and dropped passes. That's the shit I can't handle. I can watch the Chiefs get beaten by a better team. No problem. I can't stand watching the Chiefs give games away. Nope. That shit drives me crazy!
I remember that play by Easy you were talking about.. that was probably the most frustrating thing I saw all night just at first glance. Not that it would've sprung Dante for a TD, but I think it would've helped him have a better return, then who knows. I don't know if Easy just quit or if he honestly just couldn't see the guy out of the corner of his helmet, either way it's not a good thing...
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Old 11-23-2004, 01:30 AM   #10
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Why can't I have both? Philasmellphia is currently #3 in offensive points/ game and #2 in points allowed/ game.
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Old 11-23-2004, 01:31 AM   #11
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Why can't I have both? Philasmellphia is currently #3 in offensive points/ game and #2 in points allowed/ game.
Come on man. The Chiefs could never be that good a team.
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Old 11-23-2004, 01:32 AM   #12
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I remember that play by Easy you were talking about.. that was probably the most frustrating thing I saw all night just at first glance. Not that it would've sprung Dante for a TD, but I think it would've helped him have a better return, then who knows. I don't know if Easy just quit or if he honestly just couldn't see the guy out of the corner of his helmet, either way it's not a good thing...
I saw that too. I think Easy just couldn't hold his block long enough.

Speaking of special teams, they were pretty good tonight, apart from Cheek's shank.
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Old 11-23-2004, 01:45 AM   #13
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I don't think I can vote in this poll.

I can tolerate the Chiefs losing games. Really, I can. Don't tell my wife I said that or she'd call me a liar. Seriously, I can handle a loss. The shit that pisses me off is watching 10 guys trying to stop a QB sneak on 3rd and 1 and it works. The pile stops short of the first down marker. Then #25 comes into the picture and stands there. Then the pile inches forward another 6 inches to gain the first down. That's just one example of not playing hard. I don't know how many examples I saw tonight - Easy was standing around during a Hall return. He had made his 1 block and stood there while Hall fought to evade a defender Easy could have easily blocked. Don't get me started on missed tackles and dropped passes. That's the shit I can't handle. I can watch the Chiefs get beaten by a better team. No problem. I can't stand watching the Chiefs give games away. Nope. That shit drives me crazy!
You mean tackles like this.
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Old 11-23-2004, 01:46 AM   #14
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You mean tackles like this.
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Old 11-23-2004, 04:40 AM   #15
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