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Old 11-23-2004, 11:36 AM  
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The Pussification of the Chiefs...

Vermeil's job is done. He's finally removed all semblance of sack from this team.

I just got done watching Gonzo on ESPN, bitching about contact that wasn't called. Of course it's the refs fault, exactly like DV taught you. I was sick of watching Vermeil pass blame 8 weeks ago, now I have to watch our players do it too. At what point does this team stop passing the buck and start taking responsibility? When will Vermeil stop bitching about the roster limits, that the rest of the NFL's coaches have learned to live with? When will he call out a player for a stupid personal foul, instead of justifying it by saying you get away with it half the time? When will the guys that aren't getting the job done get benched instead of hugged? When do we lose a game because we under-performed, instead of the other team outplaying us? When is anyone accountable for failure in the Chiefs organization? The only guys that get blasted are the kicker, the punter, and a guy that's never been given a real chance to prove himself and silence his critics.

This team has no attitude and IMO it's direct reflection of our eunuch head coach. Our D doesn't know how to hit, but they know how to get slapped around and made fools of. Our O won't fight for a reception, but will beg for a flag on every incompletion. They look like a bunch pussies right now, and instead of getting mad, they're rolling over.

Just once I'd like to see some Parcells type disgust directed at a poor performance, instead of a tear, a hug, and a pat on the ass.
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Old 11-23-2004, 11:43 AM   #2
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Old 11-23-2004, 11:45 AM   #3
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When will the guys that aren't getting the job done get benched instead of hugged?
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Old 11-23-2004, 11:49 AM   #4
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Oh. You must like watching our players get bitch slapped.
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Old 11-23-2004, 11:50 AM   #5
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The major difference between this years club and last years, aside from the turnovers, is the number of penalties that have been called on KC.

It's obvious that has gotten 'into the mind' of the club...

I have to wonder why KC wasnt flagged last year to the same degree...these ARE the same players on the field.
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Old 11-23-2004, 11:50 AM   #6
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i agree, get in their face instead of hugging them. Our boys have become soft as ****.
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Old 11-23-2004, 11:53 AM   #7
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Oh. You must like watching our players get bitch slapped.
Not particularly.

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Old 11-23-2004, 11:56 AM   #8
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I like DV, but I'll give a few examples of what the Patriots do:

1. A few weeks ago, a special teams specialist player on the Patriots badly whiffed on a tackle on a kickoff return (although he was in good position to make the tackle), and the dude ran it in for a touchdown. We ended up winning the game. On Wednesday after the game, the dude was cut and another player, who has been a ST specialist for us in prior years, and was cut at the end of training camp, was brought back.

2. Last week, our backup running back, who mainly does special teams, whiffed on a tackle (although he was in good position) on a punt return that went for a TD. We won that game 29-6. A couple days ago, that player was cut and another player, Justin Kurpeikis, who mainly does special teams and was cut by us at the end of training camp, was brought in.

3. Earthwind Moreland, a practice squad player who was forced into the starting lineup due to multiple injuries to our CBs, was burnt by you guys for two TDs (the only TDs we allowed). According to today's Boston Herald, even though nobody has any idea who will be manning one CB spot this upcoming Sunday:

"The sticker bearing Moreland's name and number above his locker was ripped off by the time the media entered the room. It was the only sticker removed."

http://patriots.bostonherald.com/pat...rticleid=55402

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Old 11-23-2004, 11:57 AM   #9
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The major difference between this years club and last years, aside from the turnovers, is the number of penalties that have been called on KC.

It's obvious that has gotten 'into the mind' of the club...

I have to wonder why KC wasnt flagged last year to the same degree...these ARE the same players on the field.
I agree that penalties are a huge factor. Unfortunately, all I ever hear from Vermeil about penalties is how we got jobbed by bad officiating.

Trent Green is on ESPN saying "We get a letter from the league every week saying 'sorry, we got that one wrong'". Okay. If you've figured out that they get calls wrong "every week", why don't you learn to accept it as part of the game and stop using it as a crutch to excuse a season that's swirling the drain. Control the ones you can control, get over the ones you can't.

It's just this whole mindset of making excuses and passing the buck.
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Old 11-23-2004, 11:57 AM   #10
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The major difference between this years club and last years, aside from the turnovers, is the number of penalties that have been called on KC.

It's obvious that has gotten 'into the mind' of the club...

I have to wonder why KC wasnt flagged last year to the same degree...these ARE the same players on the field.
Maybe GRob had more focus on the mental part of the game... I dunno.
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Old 11-23-2004, 11:59 AM   #11
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I agree that penalties are a huge factor. Unfortunately, all I ever hear from Vermeil about penalties is how we got jobbed by bad officiating.

Trent Green is on ESPN saying "We get a letter from the league every week saying 'sorry, we got that one wrong'". Okay. If you've figured out that they get calls wrong "every week", why don't you learn to accept it as part of the game and stop using it as a crutch to excuse a season that's swirling the drain. Control the ones you can control, get over the ones you can't.

It's just this whole mindset of making excuses and passing the buck.
I imagine that most teams get letters weekly ... officiating sucks for all teams. KC is just not a focused team.
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Old 11-23-2004, 11:59 AM   #12
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Maybe GRob had more focus on the mental part of the game... I dunno.
You might be right...and you might want to don a flame retardant suit as well.
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Old 11-23-2004, 12:00 PM   #13
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You might be right...and you might want to don a flame retardant suit as well.
I was saying that as more of a "jab to the ribs".
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Old 11-23-2004, 12:00 PM   #14
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I like DV, but I'll give a few examples of what the Patriots do:

1. A few weeks ago, a special teams specialist player on the Patriots badly whiffed on a tackle on a kickoff return (although he was in good position to make the tackle), and the dude ran it in for a touchdown. We ended up winning the game. On Wednesday after the game, the dude was cut and another player, who has been a ST specialist for us in prior years, and was cut at the end of training camp, was brought back.

2. Last week, our backup running back, who mainly does special teams, whiffed on a tackle (although he was in good position) on a punt return that went for a TD. We won that game 29-6. A couple days ago, that player was cut and another player, Justin Kurpeikis, who mainly does special teams and was cut by us at the end of training camp, was brought in.

3. Earthwind Moreland, a practice squad player who was forced into the starting lineup due to multiple injuries to our CBs, was burnt by you guys for two TDs (the only TDs we allowed). According to today's Boston Herald, even though nobody has any idea who will be manning one CB spot this upcoming Sunday:

"The sticker bearing Moreland's name and number above his locker was ripped off by the time the media entered the room. It was the only sticker removed."

http://patriots.bostonherald.com/pat...rticleid=55402

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this is the precise reason you are on track for 3rd SB in 4 years.
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Old 11-23-2004, 12:02 PM   #15
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"The sticker bearing Moreland's name and number above his locker was ripped off by the time the media entered the room. It was the only sticker removed."
But that's, like, so mean!
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