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Old 11-24-2004, 07:39 AM  
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Was There Pass Interference Against Tony Gonzalez in the End Zone?

I'm posting a link to the highlights of the Pats/KC game, and at about the 1:00 mark they show the play that resulted in the Rodney Harrison interception of Trent Green.

http://originwww.patriots.com/mediac...c=nflfilmclips

Now, first, it's clearly a horrible idea for Green to have thrown it in there at all. Second, as Dick Vermeil said, if anything the ball should have been thrown much higher. BUT, both Green and Gonzalez have complained publicly since then that it was clearly pass interference and should have been called.

I don't see it as anything more than tight coverage by Harrison (37) and Roman Phifer (95). Please let me know what you think, since I'll admit I'm not unbiased...
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Old 11-24-2004, 07:42 AM   #2
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Old 11-24-2004, 07:44 AM   #3
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I'm posting a link to the highlights of the Pats/KC game, and at about the 1:00 mark they show the play that resulted in the Rodney Harrison interception of Trent Green.

http://originwww.patriots.com/media...ac=nflfilmclips

Now, first, it's clearly a horrible idea for Green to have thrown it in there at all. Second, as Dick Vermeil said, if anything the ball should have been thrown much higher. BUT, both Green and Gonzalez have complained publicly since then that it was clearly pass interference and should have been called.

I don't see it as anything more than tight coverage by Harrison (37) and Roman Phifer (95). Please let me know what you think, since I'll admit I'm not unbiased...
It looked like to me that the guy that was covering TG on the inside was all over him. The thing is, much like O-linemen holding, you see something like this almost every play of every game and it is really just up to the refs to call it or not. TG is constantly manhandled by defenses and despite the new supposed new rule enforcement, he almost never gets PI calls in his favor.

In closing, I voted yes, but with the caveat that their is defensive PI a lot more then it is called.
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Old 11-24-2004, 07:44 AM   #4
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Old 11-24-2004, 07:45 AM
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Old 11-24-2004, 07:45 AM   #5
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Tony gets mauled week in and week out... I dont remember that last time he got a call going his way.

We have just become used to it... I really thought with the new 5 yard rule that Gonzo would have a huge year, but not one call that I can remember has gone his way... and he is constantly getting owned outside of 5 yards.
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Old 11-24-2004, 07:46 AM   #6
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It looked like to me that the guy that was covering TG on the inside was all over him. The thing is, much like O-linemen holding, you see something like this almost every play of every game and it is really just up to the refs to call it or not. TG is constantly manhandled by defenses and despite the new supposed new rule enforcement, he almost never gets PI calls in his favor.
He gets mauled inside the 5 yard chuck limit, then breaks free, with Phifer running right in front of him (between him and Green). You're saying he was hit, held or interfered with after the 5 yards?
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Old 11-24-2004, 07:46 AM   #7
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Tony gets mauled week in and week out... I dont remember that last time he got a call going his way.

We have just become used to it... I really thought with the new 5 yard rule that Gonzo would have a huge year, but not one call that I can remember has gone his way... and he is constantly getting owned outside of 5 yards.
Maybe so, I dunno. Let me know what you think of THIS play.
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Old 11-24-2004, 07:50 AM   #8
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At the very least it looks like illegal contact by Phifer near the goal line. Unfortunately, the contact had nothing to do with the interception.
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Old 11-24-2004, 07:52 AM   #9
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At the very least it looks like illegal contact by Phifer near the goal line. Unfortunately, the contact had nothing to do with the interception.
Actually, if there was a flag thrown, and if the officials call it defensive holding, the INT is wiped out, and we get half the distance to the goal, and new set of downs.
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He gets mauled inside the 5 yard chuck limit, then breaks free, with Phifer running right in front of him (between him and Green). You're saying he was hit, held or interfered with after the 5 yards?
The outside man hand hands on TG past the five yard limit. Although you can't see it that well from that view, the inside man has hands on hands on TG all the way into the endzone, and something like that can matter a lot in the endzone. Despite this, it would not have been a problem if Green would have thrown a jump ball instead of throwing it so low.
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Old 11-24-2004, 07:56 AM   #11
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Well if you pause the video right when Gonzo is crossing the goal line you can see Harrison into the body of Tony G. in which we all know is illegal because he is 5 yards past the chuck zone. It's not that it really matters anyway I believed our season was over two weeks ago. I also agree with the others that Tony usually gets molested most games and nothing is ever called unless it is offensive pass interference on him. Oh well there is always next year(the motto of a Chief fan).
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Old 11-24-2004, 07:58 AM   #12
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Of course not.........if it was, it would have been called, right?
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Old 11-24-2004, 07:59 AM   #13
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P.I. ? Nope

Illegal Contact ... very possible, I would have to look at it again, I've been to depressed to look or watch the tape again...

Should Green have forced the pass.... No way, bad decision , unless he wanted a penalty called, which in this case he didn't get it.

BTW, I didn't vote...... If you had put up on the poll a bad decision on Green, I would have voted.
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Old 11-24-2004, 08:00 AM   #15
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Of course not.........if it was, it would have been called, right?
That reminds me. Nearly everytime I see a big run by an RB that starts out as just a run up the middle, there is always at least one O-linemen holding the front of a D-linemen's jersey/shoulderpads right around where the hole is formed. It is really starting to aggravate me.
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