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Old 11-24-2004, 08:40 PM  
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Our defensive problems all started when we let Donnie Edwards go?........... discuss.

Peterson didn't want to pay him. Was that the beginning of the end?
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Old 11-24-2004, 08:42 PM   #2
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Donnie ride 'em Cowboy Edwards is a faster version of Shawn Barber.
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Old 11-24-2004, 08:47 PM   #3
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That's the most ridiculous thing I've ever heard. Donnie Edwards was a faster, smarter version of Kawika Mitchell - always missing tackles and afraid to make a hit. I didn't see Donnie Edwards make a play one time after DT died.

That having been said, DE would be 2 times better than any LB we have on our roster at the moment.
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Old 11-24-2004, 08:48 PM   #4
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The beginning of the end started wtih DT's death.
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Old 11-24-2004, 08:58 PM   #5
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That's the most ridiculous thing I've ever heard. Donnie Edwards was a faster, smarter version of Kawika Mitchell - always missing tackles and afraid to make a hit. I didn't see Donnie Edwards make a play one time after DT died.

That having been said, DE would be 2 times better than any LB we have on our roster at the moment.

Is it just me or are our defensive guys just not terribly bright? I really felt that way watching the Monday Night game when they introduce themselves. It seemed like some of our defenders were doing good to remember their own names (Dalton and Sims in particular).

And I agree with Bad Guy, the death of DT is something that as a defensive team we have never recovered from.
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Old 11-24-2004, 08:59 PM   #6
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Is it just me or are our defensive guys just not terribly bright? I really felt that way watching the Monday Night game when they introduce themselves. It seemed like some of our defenders were doing good to remember their own names (Dalton and Sims in particular).

And I agree with Bad Guy, the death of DT is something that as a defensive team we have never recovered from.
I definitely agree. The only bright guys on this defense are Jared Allen, Scott Fujita and maybe Warfield. I think Greg Wesley could be a great strong safety if he could get his head right.
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Old 11-24-2004, 09:01 PM   #7
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Jeez... I kinda miss the good ole days when Donnie used to get dragged down field a good 5-10 yrds hanging on to a ball carrier.
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Old 11-24-2004, 09:02 PM   #8
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Peterson didn't want to pay him. Was that the beginning of the end?
That is one of the dumbest things I have heard on this board.

You gonna start claiming that Grbac was the second coming?
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Old 11-24-2004, 09:03 PM   #9
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Jeez... I kinda miss the good ole days when Donnie used to get dragged down field a good 5-10 yrds hanging on to a ball carrier.
I'll never forget when he road shotgun on a Tyrone Wheatley TD run.
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Old 11-24-2004, 09:22 PM   #10
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Here is something to chew on, I think DT was the begining and Maslowski was the final step into the death of our D-fence.

Maz was the closet thing we had to a leader, he played with the intensity that is now missing from this pitiful D
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Old 11-24-2004, 09:43 PM   #11
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I always liked Donnie Edwards. He was a extremely intelligent on the field (which is what I think Kawika is missing) He was very athletic and always made tons of tackles even though a lot were counted as assists. He had a nose for the ball and was always around the ball.

Yes he was not big but he was pretty good. The middle linebacker is responsible for "quarterbacking" the defense and Donnie did a damn good job of that. Maz did a good job of that. Kawika can't do this. Beisel is better at it than Kawika. This is why I think the defense is suffering.
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Old 11-24-2004, 09:50 PM   #12
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Yes he was not big but he was pretty good. The middle linebacker is responsible for "quarterbacking" the defense and Donnie did a damn good job of that.
Except for DE only played MLB his first couple years in KC. The he got moved outside.

FWIW, I don't think Kawika has the personality to be a team leader. Neither does Wilkerson. I met them both in March and they seemed timid as cats. Hell, I intimidated them. I'm not kidding or patting myself on the back with that statement, either. It's the truth.
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Old 11-24-2004, 09:51 PM   #13
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I met them both in March and they seemed timid as cats. Hell, I intimidated them.
I'm sure they just didn't want to get banned.
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Old 11-24-2004, 10:05 PM   #14
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Except for DE only played MLB his first couple years in KC. The he got moved outside.

FWIW, I don't think Kawika has the personality to be a team leader. Neither does Wilkerson. I met them both in March and they seemed timid as cats. Hell, I intimidated them. I'm not kidding or patting myself on the back with that statement, either. It's the truth.
Oh yeah I forgot about Marvcus Patton who played the middle from 99 to 02.
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Old 11-24-2004, 10:16 PM   #15
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I think our problems started when Marty decided to make Grbac our QB no matter what. When they decided he was our QB that started a down hill spiral that we have not completely got out of yet. It is the curse of E.G.
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