KC and Indy stats

FringeNC · 12-06-2004, 09:12 PM

KC and Indy have almost indentical offensive and defensive total yardage stats -- theories on why such different points allowed and win/loss record?

philfree · 12-06-2004, 10:05 PM

Turnovers and penalties.

PhilFree

**morphius** · 12-06-2004, 10:06 PM

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Originally Posted by philfree

Turnovers and penalties.

PhilFree

Yup, that pretty much covers it. We have one of the worst turnover ratios in the league.

bkkcoh · 12-06-2004, 10:11 PM

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Originally Posted by philfree

Turnovers and penalties.

PhilFree

Indy is +16 in TO ratio KC is -8,

Manning has only been sacked 7 times compared to 24 to Green

philfree · 12-06-2004, 10:13 PM

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We have one of the worst turnover ratios in the league.

We have 11 combined FR and INTS? And then combine that with our TOs that have happened deep in enemy territory in the 2nd half and it's easy to see why we are what we are.

PhilFree

tk13 · 12-06-2004, 10:14 PM

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Originally Posted by bkkcoh

Indy is +16 in TO ratio KC is -8,

Yeah, and the fact that we can keep pace with the elite teams in terms of offensive statistics is pretty amazing considering the turnovers and penalties.....

stevieray · 12-06-2004, 10:18 PM

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Originally Posted by tk13

Yeah, and the fact that we can keep pace with the elite teams in terms of offensive statistics is pretty amazing considering the turnovers and penalties.....

Especially considering that Holmes is the whole offense.

mightyphoenix1 · 12-06-2004, 10:49 PM

2003 Chiefs=2004 Colts
2003 Priest Holmes Record breaking TD's=2004 Peyton Manning record breaking TD's.
2003 Chiefs _efense counts on turnovers to get stops=2004 Colts _efense counts on tunovers to get stops.
2003 Chiefs 2nd round defensive playoff disaster=2004 Colts ?.

RINGLEADER · 12-07-2004, 12:05 AM

Turnover differential.

Plus the fact that the Chiefs have this uncanny knack for losing the ball in the red zone.

I think four or five of our losses can be traced to single plays. Chiefs could easily be 9-3 right now...or at least 8-4 (should have won against the Titans, Bucs, Saints and Chargers). Hopefully the Chiefs will get a couple playmakers on defense in the offseason and cut the laggards that have taken the Chiefs to the bottom-five in defense the last three seasons.

Branden Albert's Huge Balls · 12-07-2004, 01:06 AM

Because we choke when it counts.

Gaz · 12-07-2004, 05:55 AM

Turnovers, penalties and the Offense choking at crunch time.

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Gaz
Has seen way too many opportunities wasted this season.

MichaelH · 12-07-2004, 06:02 AM

I think it's safe to say the special teams haven't helped either.

TEX · 12-07-2004, 06:26 AM

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Originally Posted by RINGLEADER

Turnover differential.

Plus the fact that the Chiefs have this uncanny knack for losing the ball in the red zone.

I think four or five of our losses can be traced to single plays. Chiefs could easily be 9-3 right now...or at least 8-4 (should have won against the Titans, Bucs, Saints and Chargers). Hopefully the Chiefs will get a couple playmakers on defense in the offseason and cut the laggards that have taken the Chiefs to the bottom-five in defense the last three seasons.

Don't you mean the Texans? We haven't played the Titans yet. Course you could be psychic...

KingPriest2 · 12-07-2004, 07:12 AM

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Originally Posted by stevieray

Especially considering that Holmes is the whole offense.

No he isn't.

KingPriest2 · 12-07-2004, 07:13 AM

You also have to remember this is Sir Peyton we are talking about. The NFL changed the rule just for him.

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