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Old 12-15-2004, 08:24 AM  
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Just heard that the NHL players are locked out. Am I the only one that didn't realize there's no hockey being played and that I don't miss it.
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Old 12-15-2004, 08:27 AM   #2
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Is anybody else here not surprised that they don't get a lot of NHL news in Alabama?
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Old 12-15-2004, 08:31 AM   #3
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I'm glad ownership locked their asses out. They need to implement a salary cap... the player's union is dead set against any sort of cap. Too bad for you, Pierre, now STFD and STFU!

Time to bring in the scabs
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Old 12-15-2004, 08:33 AM   #4
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We have had mulitple threads talking about the lockout here, LOL!
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Old 12-15-2004, 08:46 AM   #5
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The NHL is finished.......Nobody cares outside of Canada.
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Old 12-15-2004, 08:54 AM   #6
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Bettman should be fired, and the owners should be kicked in the nuts. While the deal wouldn't have solved every problem in the NHL for eternity, it would have solved the two major issues -- bringing the percent of revenue back down towards NFL levels, and bringing a good enough plan to the table that will allow them to PLAY HOCKEY THIS SEASON.

What the owners are saying is equivelant to saying: "I'm not responsible enough to run my business so that I don't lose millions of dollars a year."

Hockey doesn't need a salary cap.
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Old 12-15-2004, 08:56 AM   #7
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Bettman should be fired, and the owners should be kicked in the nuts. While the deal wouldn't have solved every problem in the NHL for eternity, it would have solved the two major issues -- bringing the percent of revenue back down towards NFL levels, and bringing a good enough plan to the table that will allow them to PLAY HOCKEY THIS SEASON.

What the owners are saying is equivelant to saying: "I'm not responsible enough to run my business so that I don't lose millions of dollars a year."

Hockey doesn't need a salary cap.
That is like baseball saying it don't. All sports need a salary cap, only way to keep salaries down.
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Old 12-15-2004, 08:57 AM   #8
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Just heard that the NHL players are locked out. Am I the only one that didn't realize there's no hockey being played and that I don't miss it.

There's been a few players that have said they're shocked that a lot of people haven't noticed... they have pride in their sport, and I don't think they expected this much apathy.

It says a lot when you're willing to take a 24% paycut... even if they are millionaires.
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Old 12-15-2004, 08:59 AM   #9
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The hell it doesn't! Salaries have eclipsed revenues. That means hockey is losing money. You either cut salaries or increase ticket prices and concessions. We already know the latter is not an option: hockey is the second most expensive sport to attend (behind the NBA). A large portion of diehard hockey fans have already been priced out.

The outrageous salaries need to be leashed. FFS, hockey players make more than NFL players!!!
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Old 12-15-2004, 09:08 AM   #10
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That is like baseball saying it don't. All sports need a salary cap, only way to keep salaries down.

There's a huge gap between the top teams and bottom teams in MLB... it's the reason they have 5 game series in the first round of the playoffs... because the lower seeds aren't expected to put up a fight. Also, there's almost no movement in the standings... can't remember exactly, but there was a long streak of teams in the AL East finishing in the same order.. NY, Boston, etc. While a couple of teams have managed to squeak by the large payroll teams, it still comes down to beating the Yankees every year.

It's not like that in the NHL. Sure, you have big payroll teams that make the playoffs every year, but Detroit was out in the first round a couple of years ago, Colorado in the 2nd last year and in the 1st 2 years ago... the Rangers are a black hole for talent... there's 2/7, 3/6 upsets in the first round every year. There's teams that rise or are rising to playoff calibre, and minus the Penguins, there's no team that has such little talent that they can't at least compete for a playoff spot.

It comes down to this --- You can't buy the Stanley Cup. You can buy a World Series ring (see NYY, even though the Marlins' first Championship might be the better example).
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Old 12-15-2004, 09:31 AM   #11
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YEP,,you are the only fool that doesn't know it has not been played for 4 months,,,,,hockey doesn't miss you either,,,,,
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Old 12-15-2004, 09:35 AM   #12
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The NHL is finished.......Nobody cares outside of Canada.

or people who live in dirtville SA,,,,,,You have no clue how many hockey fans there are in the world or Texas,,,,,,,AND I CARE
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Old 12-15-2004, 09:39 AM   #13
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It says a lot when you're willing to take a 24% paycut... even if they are millionaires.
Big deal. Once Illitch and Kroenke get their money back from the 24% paycuts, they'll go out an sign free agents like Pavol Demitra and Teemu Selanne to 24% more money than their worth. And the average salaries will go right back up again.

It's not a matter of owners needing to be responsible enough to not lose millions of dollars. It's the fact that owners who want to win will end up outbidding each other for the best players, driving the salaries up. And owners who want to be responsible and not lose money will be lambasted by their fans (like Lamar Hunt has) for not trying to win.

A salary cap is necessary.
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Old 12-15-2004, 09:41 AM   #14
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or people who live in dirtville SA,,,,,,You have no clue how many hockey fans there are in the world or Texas,,,,,,,AND I CARE

Sure there are Hockey fans out there..and they are pretty loyal. The problem with Hockey is, no one watches it on TV because its hard to watch on TV. For better or for worse, TV drives all the major sports league with $$$$$$
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Old 12-15-2004, 09:44 AM   #15
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The hell it doesn't! Salaries have eclipsed revenues. That means hockey is losing money. You either cut salaries or increase ticket prices and concessions. We already know the latter is not an option: hockey is the second most expensive sport to attend (behind the NBA). A large portion of diehard hockey fans have already been priced out.

The outrageous salaries need to be leashed. FFS, hockey players make more than NFL players!!!

They would be cut --- 24%!!!! ....not only would that have taken place immediately, but the plan was for 6 years, to ensure salaries didn't skyrocket again.

You bring up another big issue... like I've mentioned before, the NHL has a rule that so many seats in each arena have to be $25 or under. They should implement rules for the entire arena.... let the rich people have the first few rows, but limit prices on other lower bowl tickets and even the good 2nd level/upper bowl seats. Take part of that 24%, and fix ticket prices.

IMO, the owners don't think of it as savings... in the back of their minds, they think of it as a chance to spend 24% more on other players. Again, that's not the players' faults.

If the players' salaries are at 50-60%, like they would have been with the new deal, it falls on other things... not only the owner's responsibility, but marketing the NHL, getting big time TV contracts, getting the average fan into the arena for a decent price in a decent seat so he'll come back for more.

None of it can happen without Bettman & the owners budging a little.
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