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Old 01-10-2005, 08:04 AM  
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Taco John wants a new QB



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Jake has got plenty of heart. He just can't pass from the pocket very well. He doesn't have pocket skills to hide his actions when he's standing in there. You know what Jake is going to do when he's in the pocket, because he's telegraphing it. From staring down routes, to hesitating before passes, Jake gives defenders the opportunity to react to what he's doing before he does it.

The bottom line is, do you, or don't you believe that Jake can win a Superbowl with the Broncos. It's my unfortunate displeasure to say that I don't. I love everything about Jake except the fact that he can't pass from the pocket, and we are in a passing league right now. We need a more complete quarterback.
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Old 01-10-2005, 08:08 AM   #2
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Odd that we're not seeing Teej posting here today. That's really unusual for him.
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Old 01-10-2005, 08:08 AM   #3
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Old 01-10-2005, 08:09 AM   #4
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Bottom line is, there are no free agent options that appeal to me. I understand the issues with him in the pocket. Griese was a better pocket passer and less mobile.

There just aren't many really good QBs that have both... none that are on the market or in the draft.

So, you work with what you have. 4,000+ yards and 27 TDs is good. 20 INTs is not, but we'll go from there.
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Old 01-10-2005, 08:09 AM   #5
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How much is that roster bonus this offseason? 8M?
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Old 01-10-2005, 08:10 AM   #6
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Old 01-10-2005, 08:10 AM   #7
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Bottom line is, there are no free agent options that appeal to me.
Drew Brees might be available.
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Old 01-10-2005, 08:11 AM   #8
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How much is that roster bonus this offseason? 8M?

6 million...not that much spread out. MHM said it...their just isn't anybody else out there the would make the change worth it.
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Old 01-10-2005, 08:13 AM   #9
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6 million...not that much spread out. MHM said it...their just isn't anybody else out there the would make the change worth it.
Erm, doesn't he get all 6 million at once since it's a roster bonus?

And that's in addition to his salary.

The Broncos need to upgrade their offensive line in the worst way, too. Plummer has his problems, but they are only magnified by horrible pass protection.
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Old 01-10-2005, 08:13 AM   #10
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6 million...not that much spread out. MHM said it...their just isn't anybody else out there the would make the change worth it.
Do you think Brees is worth a look if the Chargers don't tag him?
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Old 01-10-2005, 08:14 AM   #11
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As much as Taco would want a new QB, I don't see Shanahan is going to get one, considering that he wants to pick up Jake's option (Not sure if that's been done yet.)

I think Denver will be stuck with Jake Plummer for awhile.
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Old 01-10-2005, 08:15 AM   #12
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I'm not buying. I just don't see much upside from here with Plummer. He is what he is, and more importantly, he isn't what he isn't... and that's a pocket passer. I just don't see him winning a Superbowl for anybody.
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Old 01-10-2005, 08:15 AM   #13
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Erm, doesn't he get all 6 million at once since it's a roster bonus?

And that's in addition to his salary.

The Broncos need to upgrade their offensive line in the worst way, too. Plummer has his problems, but they are only magnified by horrible pass protection.
It's still a signing bonus spread out over the life of the contract....I'm sure Bowlen has the cash flow if that's what you're refering to.
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Old 01-10-2005, 08:15 AM   #14
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Look at the passing yards, rushing yards and sacks allowed. The Oline isn't in shambles.

Brees will likely be franchised and cost a team two #1 picks and I haven't seen enough from the 1-year wonder to view him as worthy.

One of the keys in FA ... beware of players that kicked ass in their contract year.
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Old 01-10-2005, 08:17 AM   #15
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Do you think Brees is worth a look if the Chargers don't tag him?
Not for the price. If you ask me to give $4M a year and a big bonus to either Plummer or Drew... I choose Plummer. He knows the system and Brees has performed for 1 year only. I'm not saying he won't rock for years to come, but I don't see him doing better than Plummer in Denver... they have other areas to address that can improve the team with Plummer.
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