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Old 02-14-2005, 01:47 AM  
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Muslim Shiites win in landslide

SHIITES ROMP AT POLLS

February 14, 2005 -- Parties backed by the majority Shiites, as predicted, won the lion's share of votes nearly half in Iraq's first free election in 50 years, according to official tabulations released yesterday by Iraqi election officials.
The United Iraqi Alliance, a Shiite-dominated list of candidates backed by Grand Ayatollah Ali al-Sistani and other clerics, took 48 percent of the votes, the Electoral Commission reported.

A powerful Kurdish alliance was second, with 26 percent, while a slate led by U.S.-backed interim Prime Minister Iyad Allawi, a secular Shiite, was only able to chalk up 14 percent, but good enough for third.

Sunni Arabs, who make up 20 percent of Iraq's population, had turnouts as low as 2 percent in sprawling Anbar province, home to the former rebel strongholds Ramadi and Fallajuh.

The vote for the Shiite party was less than had been anticipated, leaving it six or seven seats short of a majority in the 275-member National Assembly. The body's first order of business is writing the nation's constitution.

The commission said 8.55 million Iraqis, or 58 percent of registered voters, cast ballots in the Jan. 30 polling, the first election since Saddam Hussein was booted from power. Only 14 parties received 10,000 votes or more, and only three got more than a million.

Sunni dissidents yesterday voted with weapons. They gunned down an Iraqi general in Baghdad and left nearly a dozen dead in other attacks. Also, three American soldiers died when their vehicle rolled into a canal near Balad, 50 miles north of Baghdad. Another U.S. soldier was killed in Salaheddin province, which includes Hussein's hometown of Tikrit, when election results were being announced in Baghdad.

President Bush congratulated the Iraqi people "for defying terrorist threats and setting their country on the path of democracy and freedom."

Sen. Joe Biden, the ranking Democrat on the Senate Foreign Relations Committee, said the fact that Shiites received less than 50 percent of the vote meant they would have to deal with other parties. "They're going to have to see more Sunnis brought into the constitution-writing if there's going to be any legitimacy at the end of the day. And I think we'll see that," he told "Fox News Sunday."

Analysts said the lack of a majority may launch a spate of backdoor deals.

The United Iraqi Alliance insists that one of its candidates probably current Finance Minister Adel Abdul Mahdi or Vice President Ibrahim Jaafari be appointed prime minister. The Kurds, however, want their man, Jalal Talabani, to be president or prime minister.
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Old 02-14-2005, 05:15 AM   #2
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Good news - The fact that the Shiites received less than 50% of the vote means they will have to deal with other parties.

That couple with the fact that Sunni leader state they want to work with the current government is a huge step.
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Old 02-14-2005, 01:01 PM   #3
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Good news - The fact that the Shiites received less than 50% of the vote means they will have to deal with other parties.

That couple with the fact that Sunni leader state they want to work with the current government is a huge step.
Let us hope. Hitler and the Nazis never won a majority of the Reichstag either, before seizing full power. In any event, we can keep our fingers crossed.
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Old 02-14-2005, 02:54 PM   #4
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Let us hope. Hitler and the Nazis never won a majority of the Reichstag either, before seizing full power. In any event, we can keep our fingers crossed.
Hey, we did our part. If they run an election and decide to go nazi, or suni, or some other such sort of $#it...well....**** 'em.

Next time we step aside, let Israel handle it, and see how much they like that...
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Old 02-14-2005, 03:24 PM   #5
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I'm not sure how good the news is. I can understand why against all logic, a Bush supporter would say it's good news.

This feels a lot like paying for a wedding for a daughter who is getting married to a guy with a cocaine problem and a mohawk. Great news!
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Old 02-14-2005, 03:30 PM   #6
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I'm not sure how good the news is. I can understand why against all logic, a Bush supporter would say it's good news.

This feels a lot like paying for a wedding for a daughter who is getting married to a guy with a cocaine problem and a mohawk. Great news!
Hey, Turkey did ok mixing democracy and Islam in a pot. That doesn't mean Iraq will, but it's always a posibility...
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Old 02-14-2005, 05:46 PM   #7
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I'm not sure how good the news is. I can understand why against all logic, a Bush supporter would say it's good news.

This feels a lot like paying for a wedding for a daughter who is getting married to a guy with a cocaine problem and a mohawk. Great news!
So---who were you pulling for?
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Old 02-14-2005, 06:16 PM   #8
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Let us hope. Hitler and the Nazis never won a majority of the Reichstag either, before seizing full power. In any event, we can keep our fingers crossed.
I don't see the correlation at all.

The fact is that for the first time since the Cold War era these factions are willing to work together as a single nation.
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Old 02-14-2005, 11:10 PM   #9
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So---who were you pulling for?

That's the beauty of how incredibly stupid this entire experiement is... The daughter is either marrying the cocaine addict with a mohawk who hates your family... or the heroine addict with all the facial piercings who also hates your family... or the bald, abusive meth freak, who by the way...
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Old 02-15-2005, 06:53 AM   #10
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i just hope Iraq gets it shit together... I have 500,000 Iraqi Dinar that I would like to see increase in value.
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I don't see the correlation at all.

The fact is that for the first time since the Cold War era these factions are willing to work together as a single nation.
Agreed, but there are still over 100,000 US troops in the country and everyone knows who is really running the show over there as of right now. Given their history, it's entirely possible that they're making nice now, and plan to stab each other in the back as soon as we're gone.

All I'm really saying is that ownership of less than 50% of the legislative branch doesn't guarantee anything with regard to a grab for power.

Let's hope it all works out. The signs so far are encouraging.
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