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Old 03-16-2005, 05:29 PM  
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GRETZ: You Guys Have Been Busy
Mar 16, 2005, 5:24:50 AM by Bob Gretz


I’ve had plenty to write in recent weeks and you guys have had plenty to say and write in return. So it’s time to head to the mailbag, e-mail and voice-mail.

From Oscar: “Gretz, I can’t believe the Chiefs let Ty Law get out of town without signing him to a contract. Is Carl nuts? How can we not see that he’s the answer to all of our problems? Please explain this to me.”

Oscar, the going signing bonus for top-notch free agent cornerbacks is north of $10 million. Does it make sense to simply hand Law this type of money when he couldn’t run across the room right now because of the surgery on his foot? You may not like Carl Peterson’s method of doing business, or even his personnel decisions. But to throw big money at Law right now would be irresponsible.

There’s a body of opinion, and some inside Arrowhead Stadium share this, that now is the perfect time for the Chiefs to sign Law. The idea is get him signed before he heals and before the draft. After that, the market for his services may increase and so would the number he wants.

There’s only one problem with that thinking: if you were Ty Law, why would you sign on with somebody now, when there was the chance to make more money by waiting?

Like all free agents, Law supposedly wants to come to the Chiefs, or so says his agent. But the decision will be made based on one thing: money. It always comes down to the green.

Here’s several messages on the same theme; this one from homerjaygrohl@moron.com: “Gretz, I would just like to tell you that you are a complete tool. But you already know that, don’t you? Grow a pair and tell Carl he’s an arrogant *&#%. No one is buying this worthless propaganda you keep shoveling out on this site. It would do you some good to realize that, because you’re only making the entire Chiefs organization look moronic, immature and stubborn. It’s time to face facts: you guys SUCK at drafting. Carl, any fantasy football idiot could do a better job than you. You owe it to the community to hire someone who knows what he or she is doing.”

Plus this one from Gordon: “Gretz, I listen to sports talk radio all day and I have to agree with those guys: you suck. All you do is blather whatever Carl Peterson tells you to say or write. Why can’t you tell it like it is?”

Boys, boys … me thinks you might be spending too much time with your radio on. Try a CD, a tape, possibly an mp3. This steady sports talk diet is eating away at the thinking portion of your brains.

I do tell it like it is, in my opinion. Whether you choose to believe they are my opinions or not, that’s for you to decide and it really doesn’t matter to me. I’m quite secure in my thoughts and statements when it comes to professional football. I’ve been covering this game on a day-to-day basis for more than 25 years and I understand the mechanics and machinations of the sport and the business.

But homerjay and Gordon, let me ask you and the tin throats of sports talk radio one thing: why, if someone disagrees with so-called popular opinion – the agenda being pushed by the yakkers – are they considered a houseman, a homer, a lackey? Why has the level of discourse fallen to the point where we can’t agree to disagree?

I ask a question for which I already have an answer: these guys have little or no understanding of what they are talking about. They are so insecure in their knowledge of free agency and how the salary cap works and the ramifications of every step of this NFL game, that when their position is challenged, they cannot answer with fact or examples. They can only answer with name calling. In the world of sports talk radio these days, you are considered relevant only if you make the most noise, call the most names and pass yourself off as an expert.

But I’ll let you in on a little trade secret with these guys: the ones that make the most noise, the ones that call the most names, those are the most insecure yakkers, those are the guys that know they don’t know and they are scared to death that they are going to be exposed.

Enough of that, here’s one final note, this one from Christopher: “Gretz, just giving this fan’s take on the off-season. I was glad to see Vonnie come and my worries came true and so I’m glad to see him go. This is a business and the Chiefs have Vermeil one more year so let’s go for it. Not saying don’t be smart about it. Please don’t bring in Ty Law; nothing against him but he wants too much and he’s not doing the team thing; if he was he would have stayed with the champs. We obviously need a good corner, some good linebackers and some good pass rushers. I’d like to see Peterson do some work this off-season and then come up with a good draft; Carlos Rogers would be a missing link. “Go Chiefs.”

Christopher there’s no question that this off-season, with free agency and then the draft, is one of the most important around Arrowhead Stadium in many years. The Chiefs roster, organization and franchise are at a crossroads here in these seasons of 2005 and 2006. What happens over the next 18 to 24 months will drive the direction of the Chiefs for many years to come.

Vonnie Holliday was obviously a free agency disappointment; after that first game when he had three sacks he was barely a factor in the Chiefs defense. Ty Law is a good addition, but only at the right equation for his health-price. There’s no doubt the Chiefs need help on the corner; everyone including Carl Peterson understands that.

But forgotten sometimes is the improvement that comes from within. Coming up on Friday, we will take a closer look at the Chiefs returning roster and put the spotlight on a few guys that must step forward for the defense to improve.

The opinions offered in this column do not necessarily reflect those of the Kansas City Chiefs.

A former beat reporter who covered the Pittsburgh Steelers during their glory years, Gretz covered the Chiefs for the Kansas City Star for nine years before heading up KCFX-FM's sports department. He is a member of the Pro Football Hall of Fame's Board of Selectors. His column appears three times a week during the season.
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Old 03-16-2005, 05:35 PM   #2
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Old 03-16-2005, 05:41 PM   #3
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Old 03-16-2005, 05:53 PM   #4
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Old 03-16-2005, 06:15 PM   #5
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Gretz is a company man, plain and simple.


Most of his articles defend the KC Chiefs organization and all of their decisions, no matter how asinine, as if they were his dying mother on the side of the road.


Ever so often, you will find an article from him that actually has him seeming like he has grown a pair of testicles and questioning a move or two that the front office has made, but I guess those are only thrown in there for anyone who calls him a pure company man so that he can say he hasnt agreed all the time.

99% of the time though, Gretz lashes out at the fans who are annualy disgusted with some of the reerun level moves the organization makes, and tries to make any fan who isnt jumping up and down with glee just to be allowed to be a chiefs fan out to be an idiot if they arent happy with the way things are going.

35 years without a superbowl appearance, and 13 years without a playoff victory are apparently not sufficient for the Chiefs fans to be upset with the team when they pinch their pennies and stand pat in the offseason.

Gretz is a P.R. guy, plain and simple, and its his job to try to handle damage control. I really dont listen to a word he says, as it is biased from the outset.
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Old 03-16-2005, 06:41 PM   #6
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And yet ... Gretz is the only member of the press that seems to be at Arrowhead enough to know what is going on. Keep in mind that the Jack Harry's of the world seldom visit Arrowhead more than once a week. That's during the season.

If I have to choose between what Teicher says is going on and what Gretz says is going on, I trust Gretz. He's there. (For example, two offseasons ago, Teicher said the Chiefs would sign no players at all and Gretz said that we'd sign at least three defensive starters. Gretz was right.)

Gretz is right, by the way, when he says that most talk radio guys have no idea how NFL offseasons work. Same goes for most of us here on the board. The dude a few posts up who said that he and his vast fantasy football knowledge could run the organization better are typical of the loudmouth idiots who call in to the radio shows and complain about Peterson and Hunt.

Claiming that Gretz is extremely biased, but ignoring the bias of the anti-Peterson, anti-football crowd at 810 is silly.
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Old 03-16-2005, 06:59 PM   #7
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And yet ...

...Claiming that Gretz is extremely biased, but ignoring the bias of the anti-Peterson, anti-football crowd at 810 is silly.

Great post. I refuse to believe that there is any "company man" thing going on. The difference is that the guys on the radio get more money and listeners if they raise hell. Also, I'm sure there is an element of pride toward the organization when they are your employer, and you LOVE your job... I loved my job at the guitar store, and while I know we weren't always perfect, I never hesitated to tell everybody why our guitar store was the BEST DAMNED GUITAR STORE EVER!
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Old 03-16-2005, 07:04 PM   #8
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Great post. I refuse to believe that there is any "company man" thing going on. The difference is that the guys on the radio get more money and listeners if they raise hell. Also, I'm sure there is an element of pride toward the organization when they are your employer, and you LOVE your job... I loved my job at the guitar store, and while I know we weren't always perfect, I never hesitated to tell everybody why our guitar store was the BEST DAMNED GUITAR STORE EVER!
True.
But no one could point to 35 years of never achieving your primary goal, and 13 years of never achieving even your secondary goal as proof that it wasn't.
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But no one could point to 35 years of never achieving your primary goal, and 13 years of never achieving even your secondary goal as proof that it wasn't.

The primary goal is to provide entertainment to public... That's why I still go to the final game even if we're mathmatically eliminated from the playoffs. But I do see what you mean. I just want to point out that hole in your theory. If their primary goal is to win the SuperBowl, then that implies that they are FAILURES, and so are the other 31 teams that don't win. I just don't see it that way. You are only a failure if you are not fun to watch...

Granted, it's much MORE fun to watch a team go for a championship...
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The primary goal is to provide entertainment to public... That's why I still go to the final game even if we're mathmatically eliminated from the playoffs. But I do see what you mean. I just want to point out that hole in your theory. If their primary goal is to win the SuperBowl, then that implies that they are FAILURES, and so are the other 31 teams that don't win. I just don't see it that way. You are only a failure if you are not fun to watch...

Granted, it's much MORE fun to watch a team go for a championship...
If you want to quibble, their primary goal is to make money.
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Old 03-16-2005, 11:25 PM   #14
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If you want to quibble, their primary goal is to make money.

I certainly don't want to quibble with a man holding a gun...

Anyway there are a lot of teams out there who have won a superbowl, and lost a lot more overall games than we have in the 15 years that I've been watching. I just think that if they are winners a good portion of the time, and are entertaining to watch, then they are not total failures...
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