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Old 03-28-2005, 09:51 AM  
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Peter King says Chiefs offering 4th rounder for Surtain

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2. Saban loves draft picks: He wants more of them. He is in mourning over the fact the Dolphins don't have their second-round selection this year (they dealt it for A.J. Feeley last year), and I see Saban holding out for a second- or a third-round pick for cornerback Patrick Surtain. Right now, the best offer out there for Surtain is Kansas City's fourth-round pick.
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Old 03-28-2005, 09:56 AM   #2
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Old 03-28-2005, 10:00 AM   #3
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....and if he gets it done for a 4th........He's a fargin Genius.
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Old 03-28-2005, 10:00 AM   #4
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Old 03-28-2005, 10:01 AM   #5
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....and if he gets it done for a 4th........He's a fargin Genius.
I would agree.
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Old 03-28-2005, 10:01 AM   #6
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The sad thing is if we had a 3rd that we could it would be done. I think we should send them our 2nd for Surtain and a 4th.
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Old 03-28-2005, 10:05 AM   #7
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The sad thing is if we had a 3rd that we could it would be done.
I agree. It's too bad we don't have the pick to be able to meet them in the middle, although there's no guarantee that MIA would come down to a 3rd.

I think Surtain is worth the second, but I'd sure like to get it done cheaper. Hopefully we aren't competing with too many other teams.
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Old 03-28-2005, 10:07 AM   #8
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Old 03-28-2005, 10:08 AM   #9
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The sad thing is if we had a 3rd that we could it would be done.
enter the bad trade for welbourn



btw - Surtains value is being hurt by his (apparently) huge contract demands. If surtain wanted a decent contract he wouldn't be on the trade block and/or he would be going for a 1st rounder ... maybe more.
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Old 03-28-2005, 10:09 AM   #10
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If that is true CP is a dumb ****.
Ditto. What in the world are these guys thinking. If they expect to acquire Surtain with a 4th rounder, they are better off not even negiotiating. Because that is a joke, and, a slap in the face to Surtain, and the Dolphins organization. Well, in my eyes, I see that way anyway. I don't understand the concept why the Chiefs don't give up the 2nd round pick. they can acquire it back by trading down in the draft. Or even trading up with your lower round picks. We have so many picks this year it's not funny. 3 in the 5th, 2 in the 6th, 2 in the 7th. So, what's the problem CP? We could even use 2 of those picks and a player to get our 2nd round pick back. I could go on and on about what we can do, why even bother wasting my breath.
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Old 03-28-2005, 10:12 AM   #11
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Old 03-28-2005, 10:12 AM   #12
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I could go on and on about what we can do, why even bother wasting my breath.

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Old 03-28-2005, 10:12 AM   #13
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If that is true CP is a dumb ****.
I like it actually. Offer them a 4th and see if they'll agree to a 3rd. Pretty damn good bargaining if you ask me. Let me remind you that this is a club that traded away a 2nd (1st?) for AJ Feeley. They are not the smartest front office in the league. Anyway, I've been on the don't-spend-a-2nd-on-Surtain side. But for a 3rd, I'd have no problem with the trade. Hold on to your guns CP.
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Old 03-28-2005, 10:13 AM   #14
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The sad thing is if we had a 3rd that we could it would be done. I think we should send them our 2nd for Surtain and a 4th.
We've got a third.

Kind of.
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Old 03-28-2005, 10:13 AM   #15
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....and if he gets it done for a 4th........He's a fargin Genius.
Even for a 3rd.
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