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Old 04-01-2005, 05:27 PM  
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How Will You Rate the Chiefs' Off-Season Free Agent Moves If We Get Surtain?

Say Surtain is the final free-agent signing we make before the draft. How would you rate the off-season moves as a whole?
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Old 04-01-2005, 05:31 PM   #2
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Old 04-01-2005, 05:37 PM   #3
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I would give it an A. Going into the offseason the Chiefs had to address at a mininum 3 areas: CB, LB, S if Surtain is acquired they would have addressed all 3 needs very well.

Bell- If healthy he could be the best LB the Chiefs have had for years. I am giddy about having a real LB on defense. Former Rookie of the Year and potential Pro Bowler

Knight- Smart, veteran ball hawking Safety that the Chiefs have lacked for years. He is a little slower than I would like but he seems to be a playmaker.

Surtain- Best CB since Hasty and would bring the defense into a position to be top 15 or higher.

If Surtain does become a Chief the draft will open up also. They could go LB, CB, DE, WR, OL, or even QB.

Adding Surtain and a LB(Sharper, Polley, Simmons, Sharper) would give the Chiefs argubly the best offseason in the NFL.
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Old 04-01-2005, 05:41 PM   #4
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Ask me in January 2006. What anybody thinks right now is meaningless. I guess it would be a success in that we addressed holes, but what really matters is whether those players produce.

Potentially...

Success: Bell and Rolle play well; what Hartwell and Rolle do is irrelevant.

Failure: Bell struggles and Hartwell thrives, Rolle is a stud and Surtain sucks.

That's ultimately all that matters. Not whether we like the names we sign, but how those names perform.
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Old 04-01-2005, 05:45 PM   #5
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I'd give them a B+...

To get an A we'd still need to sign/draft another CB and OLB.
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Old 04-01-2005, 05:46 PM   #6
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I'd give them a B+...

To get an A we'd still need to sign/draft another CB and OLB.
Agreed.
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Old 04-01-2005, 06:15 PM   #7
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I look at it as a GPA.

Our need for CB is the greatest, so that's a 4-hour course. Getting Patrick Surtain would give them an A in that class - 16 grade points.

Our need at MLB was next, so I'd consider that a 3-hour course. We got Bell and could have had Hartwell. That's a B - 9 grade points.

Our need at S was still great, but not like the other two - that's a 2-hour course. Sammy Knight was one of the best out there, I give them an A - 8 grade points.

So if they get Surtain, they would get a total of 31 grade points and 9 hours, for a GPA of 3.44.

That's a solid B+.
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Old 04-01-2005, 06:22 PM   #8
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I look at it as a GPA.

Our need for CB is the greatest, so that's a 4-hour course. Getting Patrick Surtain would give them an A in that class - 16 grade points.
I like your grading, but I think everyone is forgetting something here and that is we haven't picked up any CBs yet. Not only that, Surtain is only good for 12 weeks should he stay healthy, 'cause the fact of the matter is - we will still need another CB to play while Warfield is serving his penalties for the DUI.

If we score Surtain, it would be great, but we still have a hole at the other end of the field for a few games. That too needs to be filled. So, I would say: sign Surtain only, and the Chiefs get a B-
Sign Surtain AND Law, and the Chiefs get an A+

One CB isn't going to save our season- only, and only if we win those four games with Warfield gone. And even with Warfield back, I'm still not confident with the secondary.
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Old 04-01-2005, 06:23 PM   #9
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I'd give them an A...even though a competant GM wouldn't whiff on both of his priority FAs (Hartwell/Rolle) costing us a 2nd round pick as a consequence....in the end we'd have 3 good players
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Old 04-01-2005, 06:34 PM   #10
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I like your grading, but I think everyone is forgetting something here and that is we haven't picked up any CBs yet. Not only that, Surtain is only good for 12 weeks should he stay healthy, 'cause the fact of the matter is - we will still need another CB to play while Warfield is serving his penalties for the DUI.

If we score Surtain, it would be great, but we still have a hole at the other end of the field for a few games. That too needs to be filled. So, I would say: sign Surtain only, and the Chiefs get a B-
Sign Surtain AND Law, and the Chiefs get an A+

One CB isn't going to save our season- only, and only if we win those four games with Warfield gone. And even with Warfield back, I'm still not confident with the secondary.
We have a better chance getting something out of a 1st-round corner, IMO. Ty Law still can't walk.
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Old 04-01-2005, 06:36 PM   #11
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If we get Surtain, I have to say A

IMO we had 3 weaknesses and filled all three. Surtain is as good as any of the options at CB IMO. Knight was probably the best FA safety available. We went after the best MLB in Hartwell, but rather than sit back and wiat for him to screw around, we made sure we got the next best thing.

Sure we need other players, but to think we could get more than 3 FAs with the quality that we're getting is just absurd.
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Old 04-01-2005, 06:38 PM   #12
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If we get Surtain,I would give Carl an A.....
But, Lets just see what happens in the draft...

Our current defensive moves with out Surtain still
have to have helped our stinky defense.
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Old 04-01-2005, 06:40 PM   #13
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I vote A if we land him. These are not middle of the pack players this go around.
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Old 04-01-2005, 07:49 PM   #14
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I think what we do in the draft has to be counted as part of the offseason grade, and like Keg, feel that we need to see how the players we add to the team perform during the season before we can grade Carl's moves.
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Old 04-01-2005, 07:51 PM   #15
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If we sign Surtain, I've got to give Carl his props. I am still quite skeptical, even if we sign Surtain, but if we do, I can't say that Carl didn't try that's for damn sure.

Now if the bastard gives up our second rounder, I'll be pissed. But what the hell, he'd draft a fuking project anyway. Sometimes there is always that hope that he'll get lucky though.
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