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Old 04-02-2005, 01:03 AM  
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Another Surtain thread -- KC Star article

Chiefs, Surtain near yet far

Team, player agree on contract extension, but trade not imminent

By ADAM TEICHER

The Kansas City Star


The prospect of Miami cornerback Patrick Surtain joining the Chiefs moved closer to reality but still faces an imposing obstacle.

The Chiefs and Surtain have come to an agreement on a contract extension, sources indicated. It would go into effect only in the case that the Chiefs and Dolphins can agree to terms of a trade.

As of Friday, the teams were nowhere close to an agreement. The Dolphins insisted on receiving a second-round draft pick, while the Chiefs offered nothing better than a fourth-round choice.

A compromise involving a third-round pick isn't an option unless the Chiefs make a trade for another team's pick in that round. The Chiefs don't have their third-round pick, having sent it to Philadelphia in last year's trade for John Welbourn.

The NFL recently awarded a third-round compensatory pick to the Chiefs for losing John Tait as a free agent last year. But compensatory picks can't be traded.

The Chiefs said little Friday about Surtain, a two-time Pro Bowler, and wouldn't acknowledge even that an agreement with Surtain was in place.

“We've shown a real interest in the guy,'' said coach Dick Vermeil, who added that he was unaware of any contract agreement. “But there's got to be a trade made and a contract negotiated.

“We're talking to him. He's a very fine player and has been for a number of years and probably has four or five real good years left in him.''

Miami coach Nick Saban told reporters in Florida that the Dolphins would take nothing less than a second-round pick.

“If someone else wants to work a business deal for him to be on their team, fine,'' Saban said, “but we will not compromise on our price.''

A trade agreement might not happen until the hours before the draft, which begins on April 23, if it happens at all.

The Chiefs talked with St. Louis about a trade for quarterback Trent Green for weeks before the draft in 2001. The Rams insisted on receiving the Chiefs' first-round draft pick, and the Chiefs balked.

The Chiefs finally relented the day before the draft, but only after the Rams sweetened the deal to include a fifth-round pick.

The Chiefs made the acquisition of a veteran cornerback a priority going into the offseason. They allowed more passing yards than any other NFL team last season, and poor play at cornerback was a big reason why.

The Chiefs initially tried to sign Tennessee's Samari Rolle last month but backed off after learning of his spinal condition. They also visited with New England's Ty Law, but Law is still mending from a fractured foot, and the Chiefs are uncertain whether he would be ready to play next season.

The Dolphins had been looking to trade Surtain, who is entering the final year of his contract. The Chiefs have expressed the most interest and are the only team to agree with him on a contract extension.

The Chiefs are satisfied with the play of Eric Warfield at one cornerback position. Both Dexter McCleon and William Bartee struggled last year, and each lost the starting spot at some point during the season.

Even if the Chiefs trade for Surtain or sign Law, they may still decide to select a cornerback in an early round of the draft.

Surtain, 28, has been one of the league's top cornerbacks during his seven seasons.

The Chiefs believe that he has the necessary skills to play the bump-and-run coverage that defensive coordinator Gunther Cunningham prefers.

In Miami, Surtain played on some of the league's best defenses and with some of the best defensive players.

That's a luxury he wouldn't have in Kansas City.
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Old 04-02-2005, 01:05 AM   #2
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Well...... it's at least nice to read it NOT on April Fool's day.
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Old 04-02-2005, 01:07 AM   #3
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In Miami, Surtain played on some of the league's best defenses and with some of the best defensive players.That's a luxury he wouldn't have in Kansas City.
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Old 04-02-2005, 01:09 AM   #4
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I read that... kinda pissed me off. Teicher is a reporter, he's supposed to be unbiased, and this is a VERY biased opinion.
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Old 04-02-2005, 01:13 AM   #5
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I read that... kinda pissed me off. Teicher is a reporter, he's supposed to be unbiased, and this is a VERY biased opinion.
Hmm, that's so true it's fact... I don't see the big deal.
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Old 04-02-2005, 01:13 AM   #6
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It doesn't seem biased to an unbiased reader like myself..
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Old 04-02-2005, 01:16 AM   #7
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I read that... kinda pissed me off. Teicher is a reporter, he's supposed to be unbiased, and this is a VERY biased opinion.
That's the 2nd night in a row he's done that too... that's a pretty objective statement for what's supposed to be a hard news story. I'm sure there are professors in college journalism classes all over the country knocking points off of students' work for doing stuff just like that everyday.
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Old 04-02-2005, 02:07 AM   #8
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Adam Teicher needs to learn the difference between an informative column and an editorial.

His writing sucks.
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Adam Teicher needs to learn the difference between an informative column and an editorial.

His writing sucks.
Thank you.
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Old 04-02-2005, 02:36 AM   #10
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Adam Teicher needs to learn the difference between an informative column and an editorial.

His writing sucks.
I think he smells an opening in the editorial area.

While I like Whitlock's writing (most of the time) he's quickly self-destructing...
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Old 04-02-2005, 03:07 AM   #11
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the star has the worst reporters in journalism as far as being bias.
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Old 04-02-2005, 05:07 AM   #13
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That's the 2nd night in a row he's done that too... that's a pretty objective statement for what's supposed to be a hard news story. I'm sure there are professors in college journalism classes all over the country knocking points off of students' work for doing stuff just like that everyday.
Ha! Where do you think he learned that?

J-schools are part of the problem.
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Old 04-02-2005, 05:24 AM   #14
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I don't get it, either. He's gonna get on the bad side of the front office if he keeps doing this. It's one thing for a columnist to do it, he doesn't need info from the team so it doesn't necessarily matter if he pisses them off, but a beatwriter...
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I'm sorry, but most people would agree that Surtain would have little help making a top 10 defense in KC.

Our best defensive lineman is a 2nd year player who may or may not repeat his solid pass rushing season, our best LB is a true stud who just can't stay healthy, our best safety just got here and probably doesn't know the system, and our best Corner likes to suck a bottle and shift...

You know me, I like Gun and I think he'll put it all together, but I can definitley understand why someone else wouldn't agree...
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