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Old 04-03-2005, 03:49 PM  
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Rank this Defense

I just moved back home with my folks so humor me for a second I am bored.

I am using 2 rumors that are floating about. Using the 2nd for Howard and the 4th for Surtain.

DE-Howard
DT-Dalton
DT-Sims
DE-Allen

OLB-Biesel
MLB-Bell
OLB-Fujita

CB-Surtain
CB-Warfield
FS-Wesley
SS-Knight
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Old 04-03-2005, 03:50 PM   #2
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Old 04-03-2005, 03:50 PM   #3
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Old 04-03-2005, 03:50 PM   #4
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I would rather have Sharper than Howard. I am of the belief that if we sign a DE, he will be competing with Jared Allen for the spot, and not Eric Hicks. That's why I am not to high on bringing in a DE.

Also, we will not get Surtain for a 4th.
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Old 04-03-2005, 03:50 PM   #5
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Old 04-03-2005, 03:51 PM   #6
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Old 04-03-2005, 03:51 PM   #7
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Voted 11-20. That LB core would still really hurt us.
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Old 04-03-2005, 03:53 PM   #8
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If this is the case we should use our first on Channing Crowder and start him over Beisel!
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Old 04-03-2005, 03:56 PM   #9
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Voted 11-20. That LB core would still really hurt us.
Agreed. I could live with that D-line and that secondary, but Fujita/Biesel still worry me.
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Old 04-03-2005, 03:59 PM   #10
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The LB corp worries me as much as the black hole at CB. I hope once the Chiefs get the CB problem solved they will move onto LB either in the draft or a Holdman, Polley, Simmons type. I just don't see Sharper coming here.

I used Fujita and Beisel because they are the only 2 LB the Chiefs have been linked to for obvious reasons.

The defense in the poll is not my dream defense trust me. Just a mildly realistic version.
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Old 04-03-2005, 05:51 PM   #11
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sims hasn't shown jack ... both ends are pass rushing small guys


wesley hasn't played 1 down of free safety


our linebackers are bleh


warfield will get exposed as soon as he has a decent cornerback opposite him.


21-25


it's an improvement though
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Old 04-03-2005, 05:56 PM   #12
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Fujita doesn't worry me if we have Bell and another solid guy for LB. If we start the season and Fuji is our 3rd best linebacker then we'll be alright. Asking him the be the number one guy w/ Beisel and Mitchell was too much last year.
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Old 04-03-2005, 06:37 PM   #13
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11-20 IMO probably below 15, still that is a huge improvement over last year if it happens and should result in a minimum of 10 victories barring injury problems.
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Old 04-03-2005, 06:44 PM   #14
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11-20 IMO probably below 15, still that is a huge improvement over last year if it happens and should result in a minimum of 10 victories barring injury problems.
just for the sake of discussion...

but how do you expect that kind of improvement when both defensive ends are smallish and would be susceptable to the run and with no good outside linebackers to back them up.

seems to me like that defense would give up runs on the corner by the mile

allen ---> beisel


howard ---> fujita


better up the middle of the defense... but weak on the edges
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Old 04-03-2005, 06:50 PM   #15
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I don't know a whole lot about Howard since I don't watch the NFC (and I don't expect we're trading for him), but his bio reads 6'3, 275 pounds. I wouldn't call that "smallish". I'd call that prototypical. Much bigger than that and you're talking about a smallish defensive tackle type build, a guy who won't be able to get upfield against OTs. That's why I don't like the idea of throwing a 300 pounder out there, whether it's Browning or the Eddie Freeman experiment a couple of years back.

I will say, however, that any defense starting Monty Beisel has a gaping hole at linebacker.
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