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Old 04-05-2005, 11:44 AM  
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If not a 2nd for Surtain, then how about this?

Most of you are urging CP to give up our 2nd to Miami for Surtain. I and a few others (and evidently Peterson) think Miami is a "motivated seller" and would take a lower price. This thread is not meant to argue whether Surtain is worth a 2nd or not. We've argued that plenty in other threads. This one is for you guys to come up with creative other combinations of picks and players that Miami might take in this trade. And to collect all those ideas in one place. Again, please refrain from arguing the worthiness of the 2nd pick here.

I'll start:

Our 2nd for Surtain + their 4th
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Old 04-05-2005, 11:48 AM   #2
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A 4th for Surtain.
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Old 04-05-2005, 11:49 AM   #3
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Miami needs picks. They have 5 I think, and that is a rebuilding team. I wouldn't mind getting a 4th with it but no way does Miami do that deal.
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Old 04-05-2005, 11:50 AM   #4
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I still like the trade scenario with the Eagles I put up a couple of weeks ago. A trade up now for the Eagles would allow them to be in position on draft day to trade up into the top 10 if there is one player they think will get them over the top on SB Sunday. They have picks...

31 - 600 points
35 - 550 points
63 - 276 points
77 - 205 points
94 - 124 points

We have picks...

15... 1050 points

We could go from a low of picks 35, 77,and 94 (879 points) for our number 15 pick. To a high of 35, 63, and 77 (1031 points). There are several scenarios in between there including their 1st round pick. But if we make the phone call, Philly has to have a reason to trade, so points will probably be in their favor a little bit.

We could give up a 2nd then, and still address several positions on the firstday of the draft.
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Old 04-05-2005, 11:52 AM   #5
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A 4th for Surtain.
Be realistic. CP has offered that to soften them up a bit. But I bet even CP knows that he'll have to give up more than just a 4th. Some combination that adds up to a 3rd's worth is most realistic.
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Old 04-05-2005, 11:52 AM   #6
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It's gonna come down to draft day and that second round. If we could trade up to a 2 and give them our 15 I think that we could definetly feel better about trading our second for surtain.
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Old 04-05-2005, 11:55 AM   #7
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Be realistic. CP has offered that to soften them up a bit. But I bet even CP knows that he'll have to give up more than just a 4th. Some combination that adds up to a 3rd's worth is most realistic.
I am being realistic. We aren't bidding against anyone, and Miami is not going to keep him under his current contract.
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Old 04-05-2005, 11:58 AM   #8
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It's gonna be a 4th this year and a conditional pick based on performance in 06...IMHO
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Old 04-05-2005, 11:59 AM   #9
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I am being realistic. We aren't bidding against anyone, and Miami is not going to keep him under his current contract.
Miami has the room to swallow his contract for another year. I don't see where you are getting that they will not keep Surtain for another year under any circumstances.
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Old 04-05-2005, 12:05 PM   #10
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Do we have multiple 4th round picks? If we do, could we offer both, or some combination of our 4th and additional lower round picks. That would give Miami several picks to either use, or package for a trade up into the 3rd or possibly second round.
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Old 04-05-2005, 12:18 PM   #11
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Do we have multiple 4th round picks? If we do, could we offer both, or some combination of our 4th and additional lower round picks. That would give Miami several picks to either use, or package for a trade up into the 3rd or possibly second round.
We have one 4th round pick. We have 3 5th round picks, 2 6th round picks and 2 7th picks.
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Old 04-05-2005, 12:19 PM   #12
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Old 04-05-2005, 12:19 PM   #13
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Old 04-05-2005, 12:20 PM   #14
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Do we have multiple 4th round picks? If we do, could we offer both, or some combination of our 4th and additional lower round picks. That would give Miami several picks to either use, or package for a trade up into the 3rd or possibly second round.
I had originally thought about a 4th and a 5th. How does that add up in points compared to, say, a mid 3rd?
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Old 04-05-2005, 12:22 PM   #15
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We have one 4th round pick. We have 3 5th round picks, 2 6th round picks and 2 7th picks.
Man, the combinations that CP could come up with! Come on Carl. Be creative.
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