Another use for the second rounder.

Bill Detert · 04-10-2005, 12:41 AM

As you can tell this is a post from a rookie. I would like to know if this is doable. Assume we can get Surtain with a fourth round this year and a second or third round next year. With the loss of Beisel, Fujita & Barber injured, Fox new and Mitchell undeveloped linebacker becomes a greater need than corner. Do you think Peterson would give up a second round choice if Merriman or Johnson were still on the board at round 10? Is there a chance that one of these would have an impact on our defense much like Derrick Thomas? Do you think they would fit into Gunther's plan on defense? Could they turn around a game much like Thomas did? Would this be worth giving up a second round choice? Thanks for your input.

Branden Albert's Huge Balls · 04-10-2005, 12:47 AM

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Originally Posted by Bill Detert

As you can tell this is a post from a rookie. I would like to know if this is doable. Assume we can get Surtain with a fourth round this year and a second or third round next year. With the loss of Beisel, Fujita & Barber injured, Fox new and Mitchell undeveloped linebacker becomes a greater need than corner. Do you think Peterson would give up a second round choice if Merriman or Johnson were still on the board at round 10? Is there a chance that one of these would have an impact on our defense much like Derrick Thomas? Do you think they would fit into Gunther's plan on defense? Could they turn around a game much like Thomas did? Would this be worth giving up a second round choice? Thanks for your input.

Fujita will be fine. The Chiefs will likely pick up a FA OLB or draft one with the #1 pick.

Woodrow Call · 04-10-2005, 12:48 AM

I think it is something that Carl has to think about. I have read that Dallas would like to trade down so that would get the Chiefs into Merriman range. DJ would be sweet but I think he will go in the top 7 and I am not sure that the 15th and the 2nd would be enough to move up into that range. Maybe a pick in next years draft to sweeten the pot.

But to answer your question it is doable and if Surtain is acquired LB jumps in front of the need at CB as long as Warfield is not going to miss any time.

**Tribal Warfare** · 04-10-2005, 01:09 AM

The Vikings are going for Mike Williams or Braylon Edwards

beer bacon · 04-10-2005, 01:11 AM

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Originally Posted by Tribal Warfare

The Vikings are going for Mike Williams or Braylon Edwards

I could see them snagging DJ if he is still there at #7.

**Tribal Warfare** · 04-10-2005, 01:22 AM

http://www.startribune.com/stories/510/5332038.html

they didn't have DJ in for interviews

Woodrow Call · 04-10-2005, 01:24 AM

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Originally Posted by Tribal Warfare

The Vikings are going for Mike Williams or Braylon Edwards

To clarify I meant the top 7 picks. I could see Cleveland, Tennessee, or Minnesota taking him. No matter what the teams needs are a LB like DJ is going to be hard for any team to pass up.

**Tribal Warfare** · 04-10-2005, 01:26 AM

check the link

Woodrow Call · 04-10-2005, 01:30 AM

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Originally Posted by Tribal Warfare

check the link

Ok

"Placing any real significance on predraft visits is difficult."

"In 2002, Bryant McKinnie wasn't one of several players the Vikings brought in for a look, but the team ended up taking the offensive tackle with the No. 7 pick."

**Tribal Warfare** · 04-10-2005, 01:37 AM

that was one time occurance though , logically teams never shoot from the hip without meeting a player

Gaz · 04-10-2005, 06:26 AM

I would do that deal in a heartbeat.

Not gonna happen, of course, but I would be all over it.

xoxo~
Gaz
Not getting his hopes up, but enjoying the fantasy.

**Phobia** · 04-10-2005, 08:49 AM

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Originally Posted by Tribal Warfare

that was one time occurance though , logically teams never shoot from the hip without meeting a player

That's not necessarily true. I can't remember a time the Chiefs drafted a player they actually brought in for interviews. I think the limit is 15 players. I'm pretty sure they interviewed Tony Gonzalez.

Bill Detert · 04-10-2005, 10:35 AM

See Gaz' poll "Surtain, Johnson and the cost incured. He said the same thing I said only better. For you experts: who is better Merriman or DJ? Some mock drafts have Merriman going before him.

htismaqe · 04-10-2005, 10:51 AM

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Originally Posted by Bill Detert

See Gaz' poll "Surtain, Johnson and the cost incured. He said the same thing I said only better. For you experts: who is better Merriman or DJ? Some mock drafts have Merriman going before him.

It's hard to say who is better, because they're completely different players.

Merriman is a pass-rusher, DE/OLB combo. Johnson is a prototypical OLB with speed to spare.

LiL stumppy · 04-10-2005, 11:18 AM

I would be for it if Warfield isn't going to miss time.

04-10-2005, 12:41 AM
Bill Detert Starter Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Springfield, IL Casino cash: $19157	Another use for the second rounder. As you can tell this is a post from a rookie. I would like to know if this is doable. Assume we can get Surtain with a fourth round this year and a second or third round next year. With the loss of Beisel, Fujita & Barber injured, Fox new and Mitchell undeveloped linebacker becomes a greater need than corner. Do you think Peterson would give up a second round choice if Merriman or Johnson were still on the board at round 10? Is there a chance that one of these would have an impact on our defense much like Derrick Thomas? Do you think they would fit into Gunther's plan on defense? Could they turn around a game much like Thomas did? Would this be worth giving up a second round choice? Thanks for your input.
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Woodrow Call Winter Is Coming Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Springfield MO Casino cash: $47285	I think it is something that Carl has to think about. I have read that Dallas would like to trade down so that would get the Chiefs into Merriman range. DJ would be sweet but I think he will go in the top 7 and I am not sure that the 15th and the 2nd would be enough to move up into that range. Maybe a pick in next years draft to sweeten the pot. But to answer your question it is doable and if Surtain is acquired LB jumps in front of the need at CB as long as Warfield is not going to miss any time.
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04-10-2005, 10:35 AM	#13
Bill Detert Starter Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Springfield, IL Casino cash: $19157	See Gaz' poll "Surtain, Johnson and the cost incured. He said the same thing I said only better. For you experts: who is better Merriman or DJ? Some mock drafts have Merriman going before him.
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