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Old 04-29-2005, 02:13 PM  
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Denver Post article thinks we have 6 or 7 new opening day D starters...

This is from Jim Armstrong of the Denver Post via way of The Salina Journal. There is just a paragraph about the Chiefs within another article. I am just going to type the paragraph word for word...

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By the numbers: Six, maybe seven. That's the number of new defensive starters the Kansas City Chiefs figure to have this season compared with the start of last season.
Here are our opening day starters from last season...

Defense
LE 98 E.Hicks
LT 90 R.Sims
NT 93 J.Browning
RE 99 V.Holliday
LOLB 51 S.Fujita
MLB 56 M.Beisel
ROLB 59 S.Barber
LCB 44 E.Warfield
RCB 22 D.McCleon
SS 25 G.Wesley
FS 21 J.Woods

...Myself, I hope their numbers are too low at 6 or 7. I would prefer 10 new starters from that bunch with only Warfield holding a spot.
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Old 04-29-2005, 02:16 PM   #2
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Surtain, Johnson, Bell, Knight..?
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Old 04-29-2005, 02:17 PM   #3
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Surtain, Johnson, Bell, Knight..?
I would guess Surtain, Bell, DJ, Knight, Allen, Dalton, and Mitchell would be the new "opening day" starters that is predicting.
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Old 04-29-2005, 02:18 PM   #4
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ah...I was counting Allen/Dalton/Mitchell as starters already
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Old 04-29-2005, 02:20 PM   #5
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Surtain, Johnson, Bell, Knight..?
Opening Day line-up to Opening Day line-up...


Allen, Dalton, and Mitchell would be my guess to complete the 7. I would also like to see Saivii and Wilkerson/Hall finish off the front 4, and Battle possibly move Wesley or Woods back to the bench as well.
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Old 04-29-2005, 02:23 PM   #6
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Defense
LE 98 E.Hicks - same
LT 90 R.Sims - same
NT 93 J.Browning - Dalton
RE 99 V.Holliday - Allen
LOLB 51 S.Fujita - DJ
MLB 56 M.Beisel - Mitchell
ROLB 59 S.Barber - Bell
LCB 44 E.Warfield - same
RCB 22 D.McCleon - Surtain
SS 25 G.Wesley - same
FS 21 J.Woods - Knight

That makes 7 new starters by my count.
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Old 04-29-2005, 02:24 PM   #7
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My Pick:

Hicks
Sims
Dalton
Allen
Johnson
Mitchell
Bell
Warfield
Surtain
Knight
Wesley

7 new starters pretty much last year the Jets had 6 new starters and turned their defense around.
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Old 04-29-2005, 02:29 PM   #8
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Defense
LE 98 E.Hicks - same
LT 90 R.Sims - same
NT 93 J.Browning - Dalton
RE 99 V.Holliday - Allen
LOLB 51 S.Fujita - DJ
MLB 56 M.Beisel - Mitchell
ROLB 59 S.Barber - Bell
LCB 44 E.Warfield - same
RCB 22 D.McCleon - Surtain
SS 25 G.Wesley - same
FS 21 J.Woods - Knight

That makes 7 new starters by my count.

Didn't they say Knight would be SS?
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Old 04-29-2005, 02:31 PM   #9
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Battle move Wesley or Woods ?

Wesley has 16 ints over the last 3 years thats pretty good even Knight has "only" 12.

Knight plays SS
Wesley moves to FS
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Old 04-29-2005, 02:31 PM   #10
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Defense
LE 98 E.Hicks - same
LT 90 R.Sims - same
NT 93 J.Browning - Dalton
RE 99 V.Holliday - Allen
LOLB 51 S.Fujita - DJ
MLB 56 M.Beisel - Mitchell
ROLB 59 S.Barber - Bell
LCB 44 E.Warfield - same
RCB 22 D.McCleon - Surtain
SS 25 G.Wesley - same
FS 21 J.Woods - Knight

That makes 7 new starters by my count.
I'd love to add Hicks at the very least to that list. Sims and Wesley would not bother me in the least either. Three years at the bottom of the heap. Time to get rid of the crap.
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Old 04-29-2005, 02:33 PM   #11
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Battle move Wesley or Woods ?
To many 20+ yardage plays and 40+yardage plays both running and passing for me the last two years given up to think these jokers are legit top 10 defensive safties.
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Old 04-29-2005, 02:43 PM   #12
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Hicks
Sims
Dalton
Allen

Fujita
Bell
Johnson

Surtain
Warfield
Knight
Woods/Wesly (this one will be close but technically, both were starting safeties last season so I wouldn't count either as new starters)


I wouldn't mind seeing Hicks spot being threatened, but DV will make sure he has a job.

All in all, with last week's moves, this has the makings of a top 10 D.
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Old 04-29-2005, 05:14 PM   #13
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LT Siavii; unmovable object
RT Sims; returns to college position
RE Allen; relentless
LLB Johnson; playmaker must be accounted for
MLB Mitchell; continues to respond to Gun's coaching
RLB Bell; explosive blitzer plays the Anthony Davis role
LCB Warfield; will be tested a lot
RCB Surtain; competence at CB at last
FS Woods; redidicated
SS Knight; strong leadership at strong safety

Eight new starters for the worst D in the league seems appropriate.
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Old 04-29-2005, 05:21 PM   #14
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Defense
LE 98 E.Hicks - same
LT 90 R.Sims - same
NT 93 J.Browning - Dalton
RE 99 V.Holliday - Allen
LOLB 51 S.Fujita - DJ
MLB 56 M.Beisel - Mitchell
ROLB 59 S.Barber - Bell
LCB 44 E.Warfield - same
RCB 22 D.McCleon - Surtain
SS 25 G.Wesley - same
FS 21 J.Woods - Knight

That makes 7 new starters by my count.
mine ... 8 new ones if you include position swapping

LE 98 E.Hicks - Browning
LT 90 R.Sims - same
NT 93 J.Browning - Dalton
RE 99 V.Holliday - Allen
LOLB 51 S.Fujita - same
MLB 56 M.Beisel - Bell
ROLB 59 S.Barber - DJ
LCB 44 E.Warfield - same
RCB 22 D.McCleon - Surtain
SS 25 G.Wesley - Knight
FS 21 J.Woods - Wesley
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Old 04-29-2005, 05:25 PM   #15
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Ideally I'd like to see...

DE - Allen/Hall
DT - Sims/Siavii
OLB - Johnson/Barber or Fujita
MLB - Bell
CB - Surtain/Warfield
S - Knight/Wesley

But I think Woods, Mitchell, and Hicks will stay as starters.
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