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Old 05-01-2005, 06:00 PM  
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Pactrick Surtain VS Randy Moss, some stats....

Just was wondering today if Surtain and Moss had every met head to head so I did a little research and this is what I found.

First off, let me say I am not sure IF Surtain was actually one on one with Moss or if they had Sam Madison on him.

Both have played in the NFL 7 seasons coming in in 1998

There have been 2 matchups.

The first one was in week 2 of the 2000 season it was in Minnesota and the Vikes won 13-7. Moss had 6 receptions for 87 yards and a 15 yd t.d. reception.
Surtain had 1 tackle and 4 passes defended in that game.

The second meeting came in week 16 of 2002 it was also played in Minnesota and again the Vikes won, this time 20-17. Moss had 7 catches for 110 yards, no receiving t.d.'s but had a passing t.d of 13 yards.
Surtain had 3 tackles and 1 pass defended.

Just thought I would throw the stats out there.....
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Old 05-01-2005, 06:08 PM   #2
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Anyway we are going to score 50 Points on a bad raiders
defense which even got worse.
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Old 05-01-2005, 06:10 PM   #3
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Can't just look at the stats like that anyway. Surtain might not have been on Moss for every catch.
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Old 05-01-2005, 10:36 PM   #4
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some of those catches could have been in zone coverage...Surtain could have been out on a couple of plays....
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Old 05-01-2005, 10:37 PM   #5
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If holding the Raiders to 13 or 20 points means Moss does well, that's fine by me.
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Old 05-01-2005, 10:39 PM   #6
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true...I dont care if he has all their Td's and we keep them under 20...As long as KC wins...and D looks better...thats all that matters...
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Old 05-01-2005, 10:48 PM   #7
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Yeah, 20 points, 13 points, neither score is really fearsome. If Surtain holds Moss to one touchdown, Id call that a pretty damn good performance.

Our offense is going to completely smoke that Raiders D, so the defense will have some points to work with.
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Old 05-01-2005, 10:56 PM   #8
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As you said yourself, it's tough to know if these stats mean anything specific to Surtain, but I'll say this: If he can keep Moss to ~100 yards and one TD or less in each game, he'll be a hellua lot better than what we had last year (I can imagine Moss putting up 200+ with 3 TDs against us easily).
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Old 05-01-2005, 10:58 PM   #9
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Anyway we are going to score 50 Points on a bad raiders
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Old 05-01-2005, 10:58 PM   #10
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Another problem with that comparison is both of those games involved a pretty good Pro Bowl-caliber QB, Culpepper throwing Moss the ball.

Its a different story now with interception machine Kerry Collins floating the ball up there.
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Old 05-02-2005, 02:23 AM   #11
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Having Kerry Collins throw Randy Moss passes is like buying a car with no engine

or alternately, paying 50 mil for 2 receptions a game
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