Pactrick Surtain VS Randy Moss, some stats....

DTLB58 · 05-01-2005, 05:00 PM

Just was wondering today if Surtain and Moss had every met head to head so I did a little research and this is what I found.

First off, let me say I am not sure IF Surtain was actually one on one with Moss or if they had Sam Madison on him.

Both have played in the NFL 7 seasons coming in in 1998

There have been 2 matchups.

The first one was in week 2 of the 2000 season it was in Minnesota and the Vikes won 13-7. Moss had 6 receptions for 87 yards and a 15 yd t.d. reception.
Surtain had 1 tackle and 4 passes defended in that game.

The second meeting came in week 16 of 2002 it was also played in Minnesota and again the Vikes won, this time 20-17. Moss had 7 catches for 110 yards, no receiving t.d.'s but had a passing t.d of 13 yards.
Surtain had 3 tackles and 1 pass defended.

Just thought I would throw the stats out there.....

nascher · 05-01-2005, 05:08 PM

Anyway we are going to score 50 Points on a bad raiders
defense which even got worse.
-N.Harris
-P.Buc

HolmeZz · 05-01-2005, 05:10 PM

Can't just look at the stats like that anyway. Surtain might not have been on Moss for every catch.

Dunit35 · 05-01-2005, 09:36 PM

some of those catches could have been in zone coverage...Surtain could have been out on a couple of plays....

Branden Albert's Huge Balls · 05-01-2005, 09:37 PM

If holding the Raiders to 13 or 20 points means Moss does well, that's fine by me.

Dunit35 · 05-01-2005, 09:39 PM

true...I dont care if he has all their Td's and we keep them under 20...As long as KC wins...and D looks better...thats all that matters...

Wallcrawler · 05-01-2005, 09:48 PM

Yeah, 20 points, 13 points, neither score is really fearsome. If Surtain holds Moss to one touchdown, Id call that a pretty damn good performance.

Our offense is going to completely smoke that Raiders D, so the defense will have some points to work with.

jcroft · 05-01-2005, 09:56 PM

As you said yourself, it's tough to know if these stats mean anything specific to Surtain, but I'll say this: If he can keep Moss to ~100 yards and one TD or less in each game, he'll be a hellua lot better than what we had last year (I can imagine Moss putting up 200+ with 3 TDs against us easily).

**RNR** · 05-01-2005, 09:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by nascher

Anyway we are going to score 50 Points on a bad raiders
defense which even got worse.
-N.Harris
-P.Buc

KCChiefsFan88 · 05-01-2005, 09:58 PM

Another problem with that comparison is both of those games involved a pretty good Pro Bowl-caliber QB, Culpepper throwing Moss the ball.

Its a different story now with interception machine Kerry Collins floating the ball up there.

RedDread · 05-02-2005, 01:23 AM

Having Kerry Collins throw Randy Moss passes is like buying a car with no engine

or alternately, paying 50 mil for 2 receptions a game

05-01-2005, 05:00 PM
DTLB58 DT CARD COLLECTOR Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Waterloo,Iowa Casino cash: $47302	Pactrick Surtain VS Randy Moss, some stats.... Just was wondering today if Surtain and Moss had every met head to head so I did a little research and this is what I found. First off, let me say I am not sure IF Surtain was actually one on one with Moss or if they had Sam Madison on him. Both have played in the NFL 7 seasons coming in in 1998 There have been 2 matchups. The first one was in week 2 of the 2000 season it was in Minnesota and the Vikes won 13-7. Moss had 6 receptions for 87 yards and a 15 yd t.d. reception. Surtain had 1 tackle and 4 passes defended in that game. The second meeting came in week 16 of 2002 it was also played in Minnesota and again the Vikes won, this time 20-17. Moss had 7 catches for 110 yards, no receiving t.d.'s but had a passing t.d of 13 yards. Surtain had 3 tackles and 1 pass defended. Just thought I would throw the stats out there.....
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05-01-2005, 05:08 PM	#2
nascher Starter Join Date: Sep 2004 Casino cash: $4275	Anyway we are going to score 50 Points on a bad raiders defense which even got worse. -N.Harris -P.Buc
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05-01-2005, 05:10 PM	#3
HolmeZz i guess its bittersweet poetry Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: NeW HaVeN, CT Casino cash: $9045	Can't just look at the stats like that anyway. Surtain might not have been on Moss for every catch.
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Dunit35 Keepin it Real Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Oklahoma Casino cash: $1995319	some of those catches could have been in zone coverage...Surtain could have been out on a couple of plays....
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Branden Albert's Huge Balls ARRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRGH Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: In the Soup Nazis Kitchen Casino cash: $152753	If holding the Raiders to 13 or 20 points means Moss does well, that's fine by me. __________________ Alex Smith's career record when the opponent scores at least 24 points: 2-27-1
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Dunit35 Keepin it Real Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Oklahoma Casino cash: $1995319	true...I dont care if he has all their Td's and we keep them under 20...As long as KC wins...and D looks better...thats all that matters...
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05-01-2005, 09:48 PM	#7
Wallcrawler How tall is this thing? Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Ground 0 for enema of US. Casino cash: $9414	Yeah, 20 points, 13 points, neither score is really fearsome. If Surtain holds Moss to one touchdown, Id call that a pretty damn good performance. Our offense is going to completely smoke that Raiders D, so the defense will have some points to work with. __________________ The best self motivation one can perform before giving up on a difficult task is to imagine the task successfully completed by someone you violently dislike.
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05-01-2005, 09:56 PM	#8
jcroft Thread-Stopper Extrodinaire Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: Seattle, WA Casino cash: $4611	As you said yourself, it's tough to know if these stats mean anything specific to Surtain, but I'll say this: If he can keep Moss to ~100 yards and one TD or less in each game, he'll be a hellua lot better than what we had last year (I can imagine Moss putting up 200+ with 3 TDs against us easily). __________________ Jeff Croft jeffcroft.com
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KCChiefsFan88 Wanted: A Franchise QB Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Miami, FL Casino cash: $32816	Another problem with that comparison is both of those games involved a pretty good Pro Bowl-caliber QB, Culpepper throwing Moss the ball. Its a different story now with interception machine Kerry Collins floating the ball up there.
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RedDread Veteran Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Back in KC Casino cash: $191	Having Kerry Collins throw Randy Moss passes is like buying a car with no engine or alternately, paying 50 mil for 2 receptions a game __________________
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