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Old 06-11-2005, 05:37 PM  
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Copyright protectin' bastards.

So, my new car stereo will play CD's of mp3's. This sounds great to me, so I sit down, take a bunch of my CDs (y'know, that I bought... at a store) and start ripping mp3's. Figure I'll burn 'em to CD, then when I slide one disc in the stereo, it's like putting in 10. Brilliant!

So, I pop in my Velvet Revolver CD. Rip the songs... try to listen to them... and they're garbage. Apparently they've encoded it in such a way that when you rip an mp3, it's unlistenable. No worries... when I popped in the CD I noticed a little app started up, and one of the things you could do was copy the songs to your harddrive. They'll be in wma format, but hey... wouldn't ya know? My new stereo plays that, too. So, I copy all the music to my HD. Listen to it... ok, it sounds good. So, now I'll have a CD full of mostly mp3's, and one dir of wma files. Works for me.

Go pop my new uber CD in the player, skip the to the Velvet Revolver folder... and the ****ing thing skips every last goddamned song. Apparently they've encoded something in those WMA files that my Pioneer head unit is recognizing and saying, "Hey... the evil record companies don't want me to play this song, so I'll skip it."

I paid my ****ing $20. I should be able to listen to the music. But, these ****ers want to dictate to me how I can enjoy it. Well, I've certainly learned my lesson. If and when another Velvet Revolver album gets released, I'll just d/l the mp3's. Won't cost me a dime and I'll be free to enjoy the music in whatever manner I see fit.

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Old 06-11-2005, 05:49 PM   #2
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That blows. There MUST be some software out there to get around this. 'Clone CD' or something like that...
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Old 06-11-2005, 05:51 PM   #3
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try this 99.9999999999999999999999999% of the copy protection systems are worthless. They take little effort to get around.
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Old 06-11-2005, 05:53 PM   #4
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There MUST be some software out there to get around this.
I'm sure there is, but I'm far too lazy to look for it. I'll just curse the bastards responsible and move on with my day.

As an added shitty thing, I just realized that I had a case full of CDs in my truck when it got broken into. I thought it was in the house. I was pissed enough that my Opiate CD was in the player when they took the ****er, now I know they took a bunch of my other CDs. Goddamnit. Now I own a bunch of jewel cases. Whoopee.

Oddly enough, they left Lateralus laying around in the truck. Guess they weren't Tool fans.
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Old 06-11-2005, 06:20 PM   #5
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i stopped buying music after the local Sam Goody got a bad batch of Lil Wayne CDs that were all jacked up and unlistenable. I tried to take it back, and they gave me a bunch of hell. So I said screw this, and downloaded SoulSeek. I still buy music from artists who I love. But I "sample" music before I buy. If that's stealing, so be it. But never again will I go in and buy an album without knowing what's on it. There's just no point in doing that.
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Old 06-11-2005, 06:22 PM   #6
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I still buy music from artists who I love. But I "sample" music before I buy. If that's stealing, so be it. But never again will I go in and buy an album without knowing what's on it. There's just no point in doing that.
My thoughts exactly!
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Old 06-11-2005, 06:26 PM   #7
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records companies can't admit they've already lost the battle...and, like good corporate giants, they won't admit it until they alienated most of the customers and lost billions...then they'll grudingly accept a new business model and make as much as they ever did...but they won't learn the lesson, and we'll go this all again for some dumb reason in 30-40 years...
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Old 06-11-2005, 06:33 PM   #8
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i stopped buying music after the local Sam Goody got a bad batch of Lil Wayne CDs that were all jacked up and unlistenable.
Sounds like an average Lil Wayne CD to me.
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Old 06-11-2005, 07:29 PM   #9
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If you hold down the shift key while inserting and loading the VR CD, it bypasses the copy protection. And while I'm totally against illegal downloading, I think it's lame that it's so difficult burn a copy of a CD that you purchased. The problem is that there is no real answer at this time.

FWIW, I didn't have to do anything with my G5. iTunes bypassed all the encryption but on the PC, I had to use the method described above.

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Old 06-11-2005, 07:41 PM   #10
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If you hold down the shift key while inserting and loading the VR CD, it bypasses the copy protection. And while I'm totally against illegal downloading, I think it's lame that it's so difficult burn a copy of a CD that you purchased. The problem is that there is no real answer at this time.

FWIW, I didn't have to do anything with my G5. iTunes bypassed all the encryption but on the PC, I had to use the method described above.

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Old 06-11-2005, 07:47 PM   #11
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Here is what I did. I have a Pioneer CD burner that I bought about 8 years ago. I tred the Velvet revolver CD(that I borrowed) and it did the same thing in my computer. So I got out the ol' Pioneer burner. I wired a CD player to the back of the burner and pushed play on the CD player and record on the burner and let it record. When it ws done, I had a copy of the album w/o the copyright protection. I put the burnt CD in my puter and ripped it. Worked great.
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Old 06-11-2005, 08:59 PM   #12
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Old 06-11-2005, 11:48 PM   #13
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Reads the CD like normal and then writes a file like normal.... the skipping you were hearing is from the protection that actually places the music all over the physical CD... normal ripping programs get confused and cause the skippage...

ah hell, i'm too tired to explain... i just know Cdex has never met a encryption scheme it can't break for me....
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Old 06-12-2005, 02:28 AM   #14
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Sounds like an average Lil Wayne CD to me.
That one pretty much wrote itself.
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Old 06-12-2005, 02:51 AM   #15
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I don't buy popular music. The last CD i purchased was Revenge of the Sith. Before that? The 10-CD Autumn Thunder NFL films collection. Before that? The obscure, out of print soundtrack to King Solomon's Mines, by Jerry Goldsmith.

I have alot of older music (80s rock/metal mostly) but I downloaded it all.
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