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Old 08-25-2005, 08:06 AM  
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Answers sought in death outside Wal-Mart

Man accused of theft begged to be let up from hot pavement, witness says

By ROBERT CROWE and S.K. BARDWELL
Copyright 2005 Houston Chronicle

A man suspected of shoplifting goods from an Atascocita Wal-Mart - including diapers and a BB gun - had begged employees to let him up from the blistering pavement in the store's parking lot where he was held, shirtless, before he died Sunday, a witness said.

An autopsy for the man, identified as Stacy Clay Driver, 30, of Cleveland, was scheduled for Monday, but officials said results probably would be delayed by a wait for toxicology tests.

Driver's family, as well as one emergency worker, are questioning company procedure, including whether Wal-Mart workers administered CPR after they realized he needed medical attention.

When Atascocita Volunteer Fire Department paramedics arrived, Driver was in cardiac arrest, said Royce Worrell, EMS director. Worrell said Monday he heard from investigators that Wal-Mart employees administered CPR to Driver, but he was not sure that happened.

"When we got there, the man was facedown (in cardiac arrest) with handcuffs behind his back," Worrell said. "That's not indicative of someone given CPR."

Wal-Mart employees referred calls to the Harris County Sheriff's Department, where homicide detectives are investigating the death.

"We're just not able to provide any comment at this time ... ," said Christi Gallagher, spokeswoman at Wal-Mart's headquarters in Bentonville, Ark.

Jim Lindeman, a lawyer representing Driver's family, said the family is devastated. "We're waiting to learn the results of the Sheriff's Department investigation," he said.

No charges have been filed. "The determining factor will be the (autopsy) report in whether we go forward with any charges," said Lt. John Martin, Sheriff's Department spokesman.

Driver lived in Cleveland, where his parents own a small business, Lindeman said. Driver was a master carpenter with a 2-month-old son and was about halfway through taking flying courses to get his pilot's license, Lindeman said.

Employees told investigators Driver had walked out the store with a package of diapers, a pair of sunglasses, a BB gun and a package of BBs, Martin said.

Lindeman said otherwise. "It's our belief he was not shoplifting," he said.

Houston lawyer Charles Portz was outside the store at 6626 FM 1960 East when employees chased Driver into the parking lot Sunday afternoon.

Portz said three employees caught Driver, who twisted and turned until his shirt came off and he broke free and ran.

"They chased him right past me," said Portz, who followed the chase, then saw four or five employees hold Driver on the ground. Driver was pleading with them to let him up, Portz said. "The blacktop was just blistering," he said.

The high temperature at Bush Intercontinental Airport Sunday was 96 degrees.

Portz said one of the Wal-Mart employees had Driver in a choke hold as other employees pinned his body to the ground.

"He was begging, 'Please, I'm burning, let me up,' " Portz said of Driver. "He'd push himself up off the blacktop, like he was doing a push-up.

"About 30 people were saying, 'Let him up, it's too hot,' " Portz said. He said another employee brought a rug for Driver to lie on, but one of those holding Driver said he was fine where he was. "After about five minutes, (Driver) said, 'I'm dying, I can't breathe, call an ambulance,' " Portz said.

Employees struggled with Driver before he was handcuffed, Martin said.

"There was a struggle, and when they finally succeeded after getting him detained in handcuffs, he continued to struggle," Martin said.

After Driver was handcuffed, Portz said one employee had his knee on the man's neck and others were putting pressure on his back.

"Finally the guy stopped moving" and the employees got off him, Portz said. "They wouldn't call an ambulance.

"I looked at him and said, 'Hey, he's not breathing,' but one guy told me (Driver) was just on drugs. I told them his fingernails were all gray, and finally they called an ambulance."

Martin said investigators have no indication that Driver was intoxicated.

He also said a review of surveillance tape showed that nine minutes had elapsed between the time employees "got (Driver) under control and the time EMS showed up."

Worrell said paramedics arrived two minutes, 19 seconds after they received the call. Paramedics performed CPR on Driver en route to Northeast Medical Center Hospital, where he was pronounced dead.

Store employees told investigators Driver entered the store with an item marked with a sticker indicating it had been paid for, then switched the sticker to a more expensive item and tried to leave with it.
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Old 08-25-2005, 08:09 AM   #2
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Old 08-25-2005, 08:15 AM   #3
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"It's our belief he was not shoplifting," he said.

If he wasn't stealing, why didn't he just show them a receipt and tell them to get back to their low-paying, dead-end jobs?
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Old 08-25-2005, 08:18 AM   #4
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You would have to pay me more then $6 an hour to kill shoplifters.
You're just saying that 'cause you haven't been assimilated by their in-house propaganda machine.
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Old 08-25-2005, 08:20 AM   #5
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*shrug* Simple lesson here folks, dont steal...
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Old 08-25-2005, 08:51 AM   #6
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Master Carpenter, 30 years old, 35 years of wages coming to him, brutal treatment, no CPR, big company, 2 month old kid, presumably a wife as well.

Settle somewhere between $2.5M and $5M, I'd say.
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Old 08-25-2005, 08:52 AM   #7
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*shrug* Simple lesson here folks, dont steal...
Well, certainly manslaughter committed by idiot employees is an appropriate and measured response to unarmed robbery.



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Old 08-25-2005, 09:16 AM   #8
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Well, certainly manslaughter committed by idiot employees is an appropriate and measured response to unarmed robbery.



Exacly. These idiots are going to do some time.
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Old 08-25-2005, 09:19 AM   #9
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I've got to get rid of my Wal-Mart stock now that the wife doesn't work for them anymore. The company has a black cloud hanging over it these days.
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Old 08-25-2005, 09:31 AM   #10
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Well, certainly manslaughter committed by idiot employees is an appropriate and measured response to unarmed robbery.
Dude, he had a BB gun. Those things can put your eye out.


I see amnorix's point with my brain, but my heart agrees with titus. Getting killed by overzealous minimum-wage security people should be recognized as a normal occupational hazard of being a criminal. You accept the risk when you take the job, so it's not worth a big payday.
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Old 08-25-2005, 09:33 AM   #11
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Exacly. These idiots are going to do some time.
I doubt it.
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Old 08-25-2005, 09:33 AM   #12
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*shrug* Simple lesson here folks, dont steal...
I concur. I don't know why, but hearing about people who shoplift/steal things brings out the worst in me. They are probably better off dead.
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Old 08-25-2005, 09:40 AM   #13
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If we took a poll...

I wonder how many in here could say that they have never stolen...

or fudged on their taxes just a bit...

or not taken back the change when they were given too much...

or told a bit of a fib about a used car they were selling...

Its all stealing...

and nobody deserves to get charbroiled on hot pavement for it.
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Old 08-25-2005, 09:42 AM   #14
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Old 08-25-2005, 09:57 AM   #15
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Are we 100% sure that he stole something?
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