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Old 08-27-2005, 05:28 PM  
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About a month ago I kissed off the CP because of an animal abuse thread that really made me mad. I'm not a card carrying PETA member (as some CPers might believe about me) but my family has always supported the ASPCA and helping homeless animals find loving homes. I think thats important.

I've also noticed in some threads that there's been a noticable drop off in participation on the CP, with some members going missing. That is certainly for a variety of reasons, and certainly includes a reflection on the kind of thread that pushed my buttons. Such is the nature of bulletin boards.

Anyway, I had never received negative rep in two years on the CP until I voiced my opposing opinion on this topic. That's OK. I considered the source of the criticism and got past it. At that time one of my pets was critically ill, which didn't help my demeanor any. That pet is now recovering, think he's going to be OK.

This story appered in the KC Star Thursday. It's real and its terrible. And its why I don't make light of people abusing pets. It happens all the time.

And as Forrest Gump might say "That's all I've got to say about that."
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Alleged Cat Abuse Witnessed By Neighbor
Odessa Men Face Felony Charges

POSTED: 6:55 pm CDT August 25, 2005
UPDATED: 4:35 pm CDT August 26, 2005

INDEPENDENCE, Mo. -- The Jackson County prosecutor called it one of the worst cases of animal abuse he's ever seen.

Two men from Odessa are accused of abusing and killing six domestic cats at the Highland Manor Mobile Home Park along Highway 40 in Independence.

Jeffrey Hoeppner, 29, and Brian Kleoppel, 31, were each charged with six counts of animal abuse, four of them felony charges.

Neighbors told KMBC's Maria Antonia that the cats were attacked, tossed around and speared with a shovel.

The alleged animal abuse was witnessed by a woman who lives next door to where it happened. She declined to comment on camera, but her niece, Destinie McMullen, spoke with KMBC's Maria Antonia.

"One kitty ran out of trailer and this guy just speared it with a shovel," McMullen said. "And then she saw the guy banging chair a couple of times, and the kitties ran out from under the chair."

"According to medical experts, it looked at some point as if these animals were literally batted back and forth with the shovels between the two young men," Jackson County Prosecutor Mike Sanders.

Kleoppel told officials he was watching the cats for a relative, but the men decided to kill the pets because they were wild and not friendly.

Scott Wilson, with the Humane Society of the United States, said 35 percent of violent offenders start out abusing animals.

"Albert DeSalvo, the Boston Strangler, would trap cats and dogs in orange crates and shoot arrows at them to watch them die. Jeffrey Dahmer would take animals, kill them, cut their heads off and put them on posts in his back yard and bring neighbors over to see them," Wilson said.

McMullen has pets of her own, and she said the incident has been very upsetting.

"At first I was just angry ... I started crying, because I don't see how you can do anything to little animals -- they're innocent, can't hurt anyone."
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Old 08-27-2005, 05:32 PM   #2
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"According to medical experts, it looked at some point as if these animals were literally batted back and forth with the shovels between the two young men," Jackson County Prosecutor Mike Sanders.

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Old 08-27-2005, 05:37 PM   #3
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ya seeing stuff like this pisses me off too. It is just sickening to me that people can do this and others can laugh about it (as I've seen before on CP, like the whole running cats over with the lawnmower thing)
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Old 08-27-2005, 05:38 PM   #4
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Old 08-27-2005, 05:39 PM   #5
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blowfish, when are you adding Kendrell Bell to your page of Chiefs losers?
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Old 08-27-2005, 05:56 PM   #6
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Do you spend as much time worrying about child abuse as you do animal abuse?
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Old 08-27-2005, 05:57 PM   #7
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Old 08-27-2005, 05:59 PM   #8
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I don't mean the question as a pejorative. I just find it interesting that many people get more worked up over the mistreatment of animals than they do people. Animal abuse is horrible, and these guys are sick and belong in prison. I just don't worry about it as much as I worry about people.
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Old 08-27-2005, 06:03 PM   #9
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I don't mean the question as a pejorative. I just find it interesting that many people get more worked up over the mistreatment of animals than they do people. Animal abuse is horrible, and these guys are sick and belong in prison. I just don't worry about it as much as I worry about people.
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Old 08-27-2005, 06:09 PM   #10
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I am a big animal lover (6 cats, 2 dogs at home) but I am curious about something. How they went about killing these animals was sick but how should they have gotten rid of them if they were feral? I can understand their position of not wanting to keep them and that their decision was poor but please help me understand other options that do not include spending a bunch of money at the vets' office.

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Two men from Odessa are accused of abusing and killing six domestic cats at the Highland Manor Mobile Home Park along Highway 40 in Independence.
I'm shocked.
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Old 08-27-2005, 06:11 PM   #12
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ya seeing stuff like this pisses me off too. It is just sickening to me that people can do this and others can laugh about it (as I've seen before on CP, like the whole running cats over with the lawnmower thing)
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Old 08-27-2005, 06:13 PM   #14
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totally uncalled for.... and a jerk for saying it.
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