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Old 09-08-2005, 05:31 PM  
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Unbeleavable - State of Louisiana officials

Louisiana Dept. of Homeland Security officials are the ones
that told the RED Cross not to go to the SUPERDOME with food-water and personal sanitary products.

www.worldnetdaily.com

Lets see ABC-NBC-CBS-MSNBC-CNN grill the local N'ahlens and state of Louisiana officials over this. I won't hold my breath.


Sorry I can't stick around. I just saw this before leaving the office.

I thought you should see this tonight.
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Old 09-08-2005, 05:51 PM   #2
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Yes Henry, we know. You are upset the press isn't asking tough questions of the state and city officals.

The Moonbats are upset the press isn't doing the same to Bush.

I am still disgusted with all three.
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Old 09-08-2005, 06:04 PM   #3
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According to ABC News FEMA director Brown himself the night before the hurricane hit assured the President they were in place and ready to handle it.

Ugh, Lucy, you got some 'splainin to do.
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Old 09-08-2005, 06:22 PM   #4
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Old 09-08-2005, 06:31 PM   #5
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Not according to the new Bloomberg numbers. Check the Mod/Cons. repub. numbers for why.
http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?p...b60HiY&refer=u


Reflects what I've been seeing, largely. People aren't buying the "It's all the locals' fault" BS anymore than they buy the "It's all Bush's fault" BS. Plenty of blame at all levels. And it should be distributed with a heavy brush, IMO.
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Old 09-08-2005, 10:54 PM   #6
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There was a story reported today on the Daily show that the official position of the administration is that this is not the time to be pointing fingers. This is, of course, because they do not want any of the fingers pointed at them. Yet there were quotes from several high ranking Republicans and administration figures including DeLay and the head of Homeland Security all throwing the blame to local officials.
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Old 09-09-2005, 12:02 AM   #7
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I take it NewsMax is a conservative site or journal. I never have read them or been to their site until now. But I heard Sean Hannity refer to this article today in passing.

If this is true then the Governor needs to be impeached.

http://www.newsmax.com/archives/ic/2...7/235423.shtml

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Gov. Kathleen Blanco's Bureaucrats Blocked Food and Water

The Red Cross was reportedly ready to deliver food, water and other supplies to flood-ravaged refugees who were sweltering inside New Orleans' Superdome last week - but the relief was blocked by bureaucrats who worked for Louisiana Gov. Kathleen Blanco.

Fox News Channel's Major Garrett reported Wednesday that the Red Cross had "trucks with water, food, hygiene equipment, all sorts of things ready to go ... to the Superdome and Convention Center."

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But the Louisiana Department of Homeland Security, Garrett said, "told them they could not go."

"The Red Cross tells me that Louisiana's Department of Homeland Security said, 'Look, we do not want to create a magnet for more people to come to the Superdome or Convention Center, we want to get them out,'" he explained.

"So at the same time local officials were screaming where is the food, where is the water, the Red Cross was standing by ready [and] the Louisiana Department of Homeland Security said you can't go."
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Old 09-09-2005, 12:24 AM   #8
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Not according to the new Bloomberg numbers. Check the Mod/Cons. repub. numbers for why.
http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?p...b60HiY&refer=u


Reflects what I've been seeing, largely. People aren't buying the "It's all the locals' fault" BS anymore than they buy the "It's all Bush's fault" BS. Plenty of blame at all levels. And it should be distributed with a heavy brush, IMO.
Mark me down as one who feels there is plenty of blame to go around, but the only blame I care about is the administration blame because their failure can affect my future in similar events of national scope, it is only their performance that affect my family.
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Old 09-09-2005, 01:18 AM   #9
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Mark me down as one who feels there is plenty of blame to go around, but the only blame I care about is the administration blame because their failure can affect my future in similar events of national scope, it is only their performance that affect my family.
Agreed.

Indecision had a lot to do with this situation. I don't want W or the Governor of Loui as my QB in the the last two minutes...
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Old 09-09-2005, 01:40 AM   #10
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Mark me down as one who feels there is plenty of blame to go around, but the only blame I care about is the administration blame because their failure can affect my future in similar events of national scope, it is only their performance that affect my family.
Well said.
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Old 09-09-2005, 02:12 AM   #11
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I definitely think the local government was inept. So why should that pardon the ineptness of the Federal Government?

A horse show trainer. This is the guy who is making decisions that could mean the difference between life and death. Of course, why should I be suprised that this guy is unqualified when the guy in the most powerful seat in the world is too.

I can't wait for this ulgy time in American history to be done with. Clinton wasn't the best president ever, but at least he was presidential. Same with Bush I, who I hate. He was at least up to the job. And Reagan. Man was he ever Presidential. I can't wait for the days when the person in the office is actually capable.
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Old 09-09-2005, 07:54 AM   #12
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The insurection act has to be invoked to take over the situation. (See LA Riots under Bush I ). by Fed Govt.

If Bush invokes this takes over immediately, the La - D Woman Governor refuses. He looks like a federal bully.

The fact she didn't do anything first or ask for help.
She didn't even know she had to ask for help.
Does she know what her job is or the rules of running it. She had days before to plan for CAT 5 hurricane.

City, State are first responders period.


Fed were a little slow to respond but please.
La, NO officials are not getting off blaming Bush.
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Old 09-09-2005, 08:03 AM   #13
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The federal government is not the first responder, folks. Its easy to say "sure the locals screwed up too", as if paying lip-service to it excuses you from future charges that you are letting the locals off, but the locals bear the vast majority of the responsibility to respond to ANY disaster ANYWHERE. Given enough time, the feds can help too, but if the locals dont do jack, the feds can only do so much. ESPECIALLY when the locals not only IGNORE their own emergency plans, not only REFUSE to ask the feds for help as they must untill far too late, but also DENY help from charitable organizations.

You cant just shrug off the local ineptness as unimportant and shift most of the blame to the feds. Local government is the most responsible and bears the primary responsibility for aiding their citizens. Federal aid is NOT supposed to be the primary form of help, it is supposed to help fill in the cracks days after the disaster. There are a tremendous amount of things the locals should have done and refused to do.

I blame the feds for not intelligently using the resources they had when they got there, but not the speed of their aid. The feds should not escape all blame, BUT the VAST MAJORITY of the blame belongs to the governor and local officials, not a minority of the blame, not an equal share, but the vast majority.
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Old 09-09-2005, 08:17 AM   #14
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I definitely think the local government was inept. So why should that pardon the ineptness of the Federal Government?

A horse show trainer. This is the guy who is making decisions that could mean the difference between life and death. Of course, why should I be suprised that this guy is unqualified when the guy in the most powerful seat in the world is too.

I can't wait for this ulgy time in American history to be done with. Clinton wasn't the best president ever, but at least he was presidential. Same with Bush I, who I hate. He was at least up to the job. And Reagan. Man was he ever Presidential. I can't wait for the days when the person in the office is actually capable.
Do you know anything ‘bout him other than this?

And just FYI, but I believe that’d be “show horse trainer”.
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Old 09-09-2005, 08:20 AM   #15
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Mark me down as one who feels there is plenty of blame to go around, but the only blame I care about is the administration blame because their failure can affect my future in similar events of national scope, it is only their performance that affect my family.
I don't totally agree. I think it's possible that the local breakdowns helped snowball the federal ineptness. If the feds came in expecting X on the ground but instead found Y it should be studied so in the future FEMA can plan for it.

I too think there is plenty of blame to go around. But the levels all have to work together. This disaster was an eye opener and should be used as a learning experience.

But, if Brown was as inept as it sounds and fudged is resume to get the FEMA job he should go now, and Bush should stand up and admit it was a mistake picking him.
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