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Old 09-12-2005, 08:39 AM  
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Dante Hall, WR

Was anyone else disappointed to see Hall in at WR so much?

I really hope that Vermeil will start to work Hall out of the WR rotation. Besides the injury risk (he seems to get hammered a lot on those short passing plays), and the way it appears to affect his effectiveness as a returner, I also think he's very limited on what types of routes he can be effective on. The only way he can be open on deep routes is to have his man beat by about 5+ yards.

Maybe he was out there because Vermeil wanted vet experience in there to get us off to a good start. I just hope that we can see Boe or Horn do enough to take that slot position over on a more regular basis.
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Old 09-12-2005, 08:41 AM   #2
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The midget should not be allowed near the field for any play other than kickoff or punt return.
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Old 09-12-2005, 08:42 AM   #3
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The midget should not be allowed near the field for any play other than kickoff or punt return.
Heh. Cliff notes version of my post.
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Old 09-12-2005, 08:45 AM   #4
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The midget should not be allowed near the field for any play other than kickoff or punt return.
What he said.
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Old 09-12-2005, 08:48 AM   #5
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Old 09-12-2005, 08:54 AM   #6
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Was anyone else disappointed to see Hall in at WR so much?

I really hope that Vermeil will start to work Hall out of the WR rotation. Besides the injury risk (he seems to get hammered a lot on those short passing plays), and the way it appears to affect his effectiveness as a returner, I also think he's very limited on what types of routes he can be effective on. The only way he can be open on deep routes is to have his man beat by about 5+ yards.

Maybe he was out there because Vermeil wanted vet experience in there to get us off to a good start. I just hope that we can see Boe or Horn do enough to take that slot position over on a more regular basis.
Yeah, I didn't like seeing him on the field so much either. I don't think that I saw Parker on the field enough either.
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Old 09-12-2005, 08:56 AM   #7
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Heh. Cliff notes version of my post.
I said the same thing during the game thread.
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Old 09-12-2005, 09:02 AM   #8
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Agreed.

His value is in the return game. If he isn't effective there, then he really is of little value to the team. JMHO
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Old 09-12-2005, 09:06 AM   #9
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I think we sandbagged the passing game. Notice no WIlson & no Boerigter. I think we want to surprise the Raiders with those two.
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Old 09-12-2005, 09:07 AM   #10
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I know they feel he can break something big at any given moment so they have all the temptation to give him the ball... but I too feel he's too valuable to risk losing on kick-offs and punts to keep using him on offense.

I REALLY hated the hand-off to him early in the game. I was just praying he didn't get smashed. He's just a little guy after all.
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Old 09-12-2005, 09:08 AM   #11
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I think we sandbagged the passing game. Notice no WIlson & no Boerigter. I think we want to surprise the Raiders with those two.
I think Kris Wilson is like a fart in the wind. You hear he's there but there's never any proof.
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Old 09-12-2005, 09:11 AM   #12
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There was a play in the 2nd half -- I think a 3rd down -- where Green threw a bit high to Dante, who leaped and got a hand on the ball but couldn't haul it in. I believe a taller receiver would've grabbed it.

That's the biggest problem I have with Dante at WR. He's too small to throw to downfield. I have concerns about it affecting his return game (and health) too, but if he were a true weapon at WR then I'd be more open to using him there more. But he's not a downfield guy. If you can get him in space, on a bubble screen or a quick slant that he can use his elusiveness to break, that's OK. But I've never understood why they send him on regular WR routes.

He should be a No. 5 WR and used as an occasional gimmick. I'd rather have 4 "true" WRs playing ahead of him -- and that includes a FredEx or Pathon.
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Old 09-12-2005, 09:18 AM   #13
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Were Boerigter and Wilson active for the game? I know Siavii wasn't.
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Old 09-12-2005, 09:21 AM   #14
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Were Boerigter and Wilson active for the game? I know Siavii wasn't.
Boe was not. Wilson was, and was in on a few plays I'm pretty sure.
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Old 09-12-2005, 09:22 AM   #15
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