BCS is Big 12 biased? Snyders Revenge?

**BigRedChief** · 10-25-2005, 11:46 AM

The country is in quite a tizzy over the latest BCS rankings. Though USC sits comfortably atop both the coaches' and Harris polls, Texas leads in five of the BCS's six computer rankings, and is the top team overall in the BCS rankings.

The rest of the article here:

http://sports.espn.go.com/espn/page2...e=jones/051025

Another ESPN writer says no big deal:
http://sports.espn.go.com/ncf/news/story?id=2202636

**Saulbadguy** · 10-25-2005, 11:49 AM

All about money. The BCS would love a Texas USC matchup.

htismaqe · 10-25-2005, 12:04 PM

This is one time I think the BCS is right.

USC is not nearly as dominant as in year's past and Texas is the best team in the country from the games I've watched.

carlos3652 · 10-25-2005, 12:10 PM

Hmmm... AP and Coaches poll does not include SOS which the BCS does, Also the BCS is not human... and does not take into consideration that USC has not lost in what 29 games... It only factors this season.

Lets compare this year, which team has beat more top 25 teams:

Texas: 3

@ OSU #4
Colorado #24
Texas Tech #10

USC: 3

@ Oregon #24
@ ASU #14
@ ND #9

But, where are they now? The BCS ranked team USC played are ranked 11, 15 (2 - Oregon, ND)

Texas has all 3 ranked in the top 25: 13, 16, 24

I think by the end of the year USC will be number 1 if they win out... they have 3 more ranked opp compared to Texas 0

kepp · 10-25-2005, 12:16 PM

If they're going to be sympathetic to the Big XII, can't they be REALLY sympathetic and sneak Mizzou in there?

htismaqe · 10-25-2005, 12:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by carlos3652

Hmmm... AP and Coaches poll does not include SOS which the BCS does, Also the BCS is not human... and does not take into consideration that USC has not lost in what 29 games... It only factors this season.

Lets compare this year, which team has beat more top 25 teams:

Texas: 3

@ OSU #4
Colorado #24
Texas Tech #10

USC: 3

@ Oregon #24
@ ASU #14
@ ND #9

But, where are they now? The BCS ranked team USC played are ranked 11, 15 (2 - Oregon, ND)

Texas has all 3 ranked in the top 25: 13, 16, 24

I think by the end of the year USC will be number 1 if they win out... they have 3 more ranked opp compared to Texas 0

Excellent analysis. This is exactly why I consider Texas to be the current #1 team -- they deserve it. At the end of the season, that may change.

Garcia Bronco · 10-25-2005, 12:42 PM

Texas is good....but their SOS is weak with Big 12 play....same with USC and PAC-10 play. Which brings me to Texas Tech. You look at the box scores and say "wow..."Texas killed the number 10 ranked team....but TT had no business being ranked in the top 15 at all. In fact...IMO the only way these two teams have been tested is their respective games against OSU and ND....but that's it.

htismaqe · 10-25-2005, 12:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Garcia Bronco

Texas is good....but their SOS is weak with Big 12 play....same with USC and PAC-10 play. Which brings me to Texas Tech. You look at the box scores and say "wow..."Texas killed the number 10 ranked team....but TT had no business being ranked in the top 15 at all. In fact...IMO the only way these two teams have been tested is their respective games against OSU and ND....but that's it.

Texas' current SoS is actually very good. It will, however, get worse because they don't have any decent team left on their schedule.

The team to watch out for is Va Tech. Their remaining schedule is pretty strong. If they run the table they better get in...

Ultra Peanut · 10-25-2005, 01:10 PM

No playoff, no closure. Regardless of who comes out "on top," it's just another story of another year and another MNC.

By this point, I can't be arsed to care who the "real" national champion is.

tk13 · 10-25-2005, 01:24 PM

Texas has been more dominant, but I don't care, USC hasn't lost a game in forever and is 2 time defending champ.... there's no way shape or form they should not be #1 in everything. If style points were all that mattered the Patriots wouldn't be NFL champs 3 of the last 4 times, but the object is to win football games. The fact that Texas is ahead of them shows how much of a joke the whole thing is.

Garcia Bronco · 10-25-2005, 01:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by htismaqe

Texas' current SoS is actually very good. It will, however, get worse because they don't have any decent team left on their schedule.

The team to watch out for is Va Tech. Their remaining schedule is pretty strong. If they run the table they better get in...

Being a Virginia Tech Alum...I hope you're right. I would expect that Virginia Tech would leap frog both USC and UT in the BCS should they win out and beat FSU in an ACC Championship game.

BC
Miami
and
FSU*

All are top 15 BCS at this time and remain on the Hokies schedule

*possible ACCC Game matchup.

But none of that is going to be easy.

Garcia Bronco · 10-25-2005, 01:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tk13

Texas has been more dominant, but I don't care, USC hasn't lost a game in forever and is 2 time defending champ.... there's no way shape or form they should not be #1 in everything. If style points were all that mattered the Patriots wouldn't be NFL champs 3 of the last 4 times, but the object is to win football games. The fact that Texas is ahead of them shows how much of a joke the whole thing is.

They've only won one National championship...unless you're counting the AP NC...which is like being named the Pepsi all rookie of the year.

LSU won it...then USC won it...there is no two in-a-row.

Uatu · 10-25-2005, 01:42 PM

If they aren't going to have a playoff system, they ought to go right back to voting for who was the best.

At least if some human decision were in the process they could give people the game they want to see.

Simplex3 · 10-25-2005, 01:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Psicosis

No playoff, no closure. Regardless of who comes out "on top," it's just another story of another year and another MNC.

By this point, I can't be arsed to care who the "real" national champion is.

Damn straight. Untill there's a playoff there IS no national champion. There's some team crowned with a BS title.

tk13 · 10-25-2005, 01:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Garcia Bronco

They've only won one National championship...unless you're counting the AP NC...which is like being named the Pepsi all rookie of the year.

LSU won it...then USC won it...there is no two in-a-row.

It's not any better or worse than the coaches poll... actually it might be better, last year the Big 12 coaches all conspired to get Texas voted up into a better bowl, like that's real honest. USC was co-national champion in my mind. Just can't take it away.

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htismaqe In the misty morning... Join Date: Aug 2000 Location: on the edge of time... Casino cash: $1044370	This is one time I think the BCS is right. USC is not nearly as dominant as in year's past and Texas is the best team in the country from the games I've watched. __________________ Don't live for pleasure, make life your treasure... \m/ Ronnie James Dio, 1942-2010 \m/
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kepp MVP Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: KCMO Casino cash: $181999	If they're going to be sympathetic to the Big XII, can't they be REALLY sympathetic and sneak Mizzou in there?
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10-25-2005, 12:42 PM	#7
Garcia Bronco No Keys, No Problem Join Date: Sep 2000 Location: Denver Casino cash: $59478	Texas is good....but their SOS is weak with Big 12 play....same with USC and PAC-10 play. Which brings me to Texas Tech. You look at the box scores and say "wow..."Texas killed the number 10 ranked team....but TT had no business being ranked in the top 15 at all. In fact...IMO the only way these two teams have been tested is their respective games against OSU and ND....but that's it.
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10-25-2005, 12:10 PM	#4
carlos3652 El Diablo Join Date: Dec 2004 Casino cash: $23143	Hmmm... AP and Coaches poll does not include SOS which the BCS does, Also the BCS is not human... and does not take into consideration that USC has not lost in what 29 games... It only factors this season. Lets compare this year, which team has beat more top 25 teams: Texas: 3 @ OSU #4 Colorado #24 Texas Tech #10 USC: 3 @ Oregon #24 @ ASU #14 @ ND #9 But, where are they now? The BCS ranked team USC played are ranked 11, 15 (2 - Oregon, ND) Texas has all 3 ranked in the top 25: 13, 16, 24 I think by the end of the year USC will be number 1 if they win out... they have 3 more ranked opp compared to Texas 0
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10-25-2005, 01:10 PM	#9
Ultra Peanut The Realest Sport Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: University of Jah Casino cash: $174692	No playoff, no closure. Regardless of who comes out "on top," it's just another story of another year and another MNC. By this point, I can't be arsed to care who the "real" national champion is. __________________
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10-25-2005, 01:24 PM	#10
tk13 ... Join Date: Nov 2001 Casino cash: $100878	Texas has been more dominant, but I don't care, USC hasn't lost a game in forever and is 2 time defending champ.... there's no way shape or form they should not be #1 in everything. If style points were all that mattered the Patriots wouldn't be NFL champs 3 of the last 4 times, but the object is to win football games. The fact that Texas is ahead of them shows how much of a joke the whole thing is.
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10-25-2005, 01:42 PM	#13
Uatu Starter Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Blue Area Casino cash: $1000	If they aren't going to have a playoff system, they ought to go right back to voting for who was the best. At least if some human decision were in the process they could give people the game they want to see.
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