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Old 12-07-2005, 02:25 PM  
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Running up the score........what's the big deal?

Every year there are complaints about a team running up the score on another team. Denver was upset that the Chiefs ran up the score on them last December at Arrowhead. It happens more often in college than in the NFL. To me, what's the big deal? Who cares? If you can win 100-0, do it. If you are the losing team, be a man and take your ass whoopin'. If you are that bad then you deserve to lose by a wide margin. If you don't want to take an ass whoopin', then work harder, get better and improve your team.

In college football a team's ranking depends on how badly they beat their opponents. In the NFL, the 4th or 5th or 6th tie breaker, I don't remember which one it is, is margin of victory. Another tie breaker is points for and points against. So, it is advantageous to a team to score as many points as possible, against any foe, at any time in both college and pro football. So, again I say, what's the big deal? Why do teams continually whine about this year after year. To me, it's not bad sportsmanship. It's just life. It's a good life lesson. Sometimes you win and sometimes you lose.

What are your thoughts?


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Old 12-07-2005, 02:41 PM   #2
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My thoughts are that this is the type of thing that cannot be explained. You either get it or you don't, it's a matter of class.
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Old 12-07-2005, 02:42 PM   #3
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also they don't want to risk injury to key players
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Old 12-07-2005, 02:46 PM   #4
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also they don't want to risk injury to key players
Right. I can see a team replacing the 1st string with the 2nd or 3rd string to protect against injury once an insurmountable lead has been achieved. That's up to the winning team. But, if the leading team chooses to run up the score to help their playoff chances, that's up to them.
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Old 12-07-2005, 02:46 PM   #5
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My thoughts are that this is the type of thing that cannot be explained. You either get it or you don't, it's a matter of class.

You are on the right track. But you can't tell a player not to try his best.

It would be low class for a coach not to put in the second or third string guys when up by 50 points. However, I don't fault a third string player trying his best to score. That third string player is still fighting for a starting job and needs to perform whenever he gets in the game.
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Old 12-07-2005, 02:47 PM   #6
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Old 12-07-2005, 02:47 PM   #7
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I don't see why an opposing team cares. A loss is a loss. (At least at the pro level. Amateur is a different story.)

Also, I can buy the argument that you want your 2nd string QB to get some real game action, so you let him throw the ball.
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Old 12-07-2005, 02:47 PM   #8
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Running up the score should not exist in the NFL. Its your job to stop them.
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Old 12-07-2005, 02:49 PM   #9
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Right. I can see a team replacing the 1st string with the 2nd or 3rd string to protect against injury once an insurmountable lead has been achieved. That's up to the winning team. But, if the leading team chooses to run up the score to help their playoff chances, that's up to them.

On the other hand, a coach might think it's more important to give his "Todd Collinses" some valuable playing time in case a starter goes down later in the season.
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Old 12-07-2005, 02:55 PM   #10
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You are on the right track. But you can't tell a player not to try his best.
Well sure, but I was more refering to the play calling and who you have in the game.
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Old 12-07-2005, 02:59 PM   #11
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My outake on this is:

NFL it shouldn't matter, run up the score big deal. They are payed to do it, its your job.

College and High School - if your backups run the score up then nothing can be done, if your starters are still in then you have no class unless its an arrogrant program (I know a few I would run the score up if I had a chance)
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Old 12-07-2005, 03:00 PM   #12
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On the other hand, a coach might think it's more important to give his "Todd Collinses" some valuable playing time in case a starter goes down later in the season.
That's totally true and I agree. The coach can decide which is more important. Should he gain more points which would help the team in the playoff race or would it be better to give "Todd Collins" some playing time. Both of those are valid to me. But I don't think the coach should have to worry about offending the other team or how the other team "feels" about losing. Unbelieveably, I agree with Saulbadyguy -- "Running up the score should not exist in the NFL. Its your job to stop them."
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Old 12-07-2005, 03:00 PM   #13
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It's more deplorable in college and high school. Some schools get/recruit better athletes then play teams that are clearly out of their class athletically. It's a pretty classless act to run up a score.

In the NFL on the other hand, every team has at it's dipsoal the finest athletes in the world and get paid millions of dollars to play a game for a living. If they aren't doing their job well enough to prevent an ass-whippin' then they don't deserve that job.
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Old 12-07-2005, 03:01 PM   #14
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At the pro level I could care less. If you're getting pounded maybe you shouldn't suck so much.

At the college level I didn't care so much until the big schools started bringing in the little schools to pound a couple of times a year, but even then the little school chose to take that game.

In HS it's pure bulls**t. HS teams can't recruit, they don't get to choose their schedule, they're pretty much stuck with the team they have. Points should be removed from any HS playoff formula where they exist and any coach who runs up scores on a bunch of kids should be kicked in the nuts by the entire opposing team.
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Old 12-07-2005, 03:01 PM   #15
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Originally Posted by ChiefsCountry
My outake on this is:

NFL it shouldn't matter, run up the score big deal. They are payed to do it, its your job.

College and High School - if your backups run the score up then nothing can be done, if your starters are still in then you have no class unless its an arrogrant program (I know a few I would run the score up if I had a chance)
I feel exactly the opposite.
Well, in college you need to run it up to get voter recognition for bowls.

In the NFL running up the score means nothing, the coaches should start eating up the clock and putting in backups. It's a matter of class, and like I said before you can't really rationalize or explain class.
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