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Old 12-28-2005, 09:46 AM  
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a Butch Davis question

Davis signed a contract with the Browns good till 2007. The Browns made good on the contract after he left & paid in him in full. So he can not accept a job in the NFL before the end of the 2007 season? If he does the Browns get compensation?

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Old 12-28-2005, 09:50 AM   #2
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Davis signed a contract with the Browns good till 2007. The Browns made good on the contract after he left & paid in him in full. So he can not accept a job in the NFL before the end of the 2007 season. If he does the Browns get compensation?
That is good news if it is true because the NFL banned giving draft picks for coaches 2 years ago.
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Old 12-28-2005, 10:41 AM   #3
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Didn't the Browns fire him? If so, how the hell could they deserve compensation?
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Old 12-28-2005, 10:46 AM   #4
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Didn't the Browns fire him? If so, how the hell could they deserve compensation?
he resigned, probably before he would have gotten fired
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Old 12-28-2005, 10:46 AM   #5
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Didn't the Browns fire him? If so, how the hell could they deserve compensation?
He quit.

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Coordinator Robiskie gets interim nod
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BEREA, Ohio -- Butch Davis never wanted to abandon his dream job and all its ego-soothing power. The last-second losses, freaky injuries and intense scrutiny on his family changed his mind.

Tuesday, Nov. 30
Don't think Butch Davis stepped down as head coach of the Browns because he wanted to become a factor in the openings at the University of Florida, Washington or Notre Dame. Barring a major change of heart, Davis will not likely coach next season.

The pressures of bearing the responsibilities of running the Browns, and the criticism that went with that, caught up to Davis. Sure, he put those duties on his own plate. He wanted to run the show and it was his push to eliminate many of the front office decision-makers that put him in this position.

Following Sunday's 58-48 loss to the Bengals, Davis was emotionally drained. Though the Browns officially termed Davis' departure a resignation, it was a mutual parting. Owner Randy Lerner lived up to the terms of Davis' contract and let him walk away with more than $12 million of financial security. Davis moved aside and let Terry Robiskie take over as interim coach.

A week ago, Davis wanted to finish the season, but his desire changed drastically Sunday.

It was time for Davis to go. The Cleveland Browns will move on without him.

After arriving three years ago with the promise of winning a Super Bowl title, Davis resigned as Cleveland's coach on Tuesday, leaving the last-place Browns with five games left in another sinking season.

Davis' departure -- a source close to Davis told ESPN's Chris Mortensen that Davis was fired -- came two days after the Browns dropped their fifth straight game, a 58-48 loss that followed a script similar to so many others in the Davis Era: close but not good enough.

Although he had been promised last week by team owner Randy Lerner that his job was safe for the remainder of this season, Davis decided he wanted out and surprised the team by stepping down.

"I'm not sure what changed," Lerner said. "My sense of it is that the whole environment had become very difficult to manage emotionally, and it was his sense that enough was enough. I know his family's state of mind was a huge piece of the calculation. ... I did encourage him to stay."

First-year offensive coordinator Terry Robiskie will coach the Browns for the rest of the season. His first game won't be an easy one: The Browns host the Super Bowl champion New England Patriots on Sunday.

"He picked a hell of a week to make this decision," joked Robiskie, who served as Washington's interim coach for three games in 2000 after the Redskins fired Norv Turner. "I'm not auditioning for the job. I just want to see the Cleveland Browns win."

Davis inherited a 5-27 expansion team, devoid of any depth or star players, from Chris Palmer in 2001. He went 24-36 during his stay in Cleveland, leading the Browns to a 9-7 record and a playoff appearance in 2002, his second season after leaving the University of Miami.

But since then, the Browns regressed, going 8-19 amid a string of close losses, costly injuries and chaos.

As Browns coach and power-broker, Butch Davis put himself in the position to succeed or fail in Cleveland.

This season, Davis squabbled publicly with quarterback Jeff Garcia, whom he signed to a four-year contract as an upgrade over Tim Couch. The Browns also had some embarrassing moments: running back William Green's ejection for fighting before the Pittsburgh game and defensive tackle Gerard Warren's taunts he was going to rough up Steelers rookie quarterback Ben Roethlisberger.

Those distractions didn't help Davis' case, and neither did the Browns' mediocre play.

Davis had three years remaining on a contract worth about $12 million. Lerner refused to give details of a financial settlement, but intimated he will pay Davis the rest of his deal.

"I did it because I felt that he always acted in good faith," Lerner said. "He did honor the contract in terms of what was in his heart. I think he gave it everything he had, and that's all you can ask a guy to do."

Davis had unquestioned authority over the team's football operations department. But now that he's gone Lerner plans to overhaul the front office. He will begin by hiring a general manager.

Lerner has studied the infrastructure at New England and Philadelphia and decided that's what he wants the Browns to look like.

"There is no magic," he said. "We need to concentrate on organizations that have been successful and we need to understand how and why they have been successful and we need to assume those practices."

Pressure had been mounting on Davis for weeks as the Browns' season crumbled with a score of injuries to key players and a handful of agonizing losses. Things got so difficult for Davis and his family last week that he sent his wife and 11-year-old son to Florida to avoid all the attention.

The Browns, 3-8 this season and just 29-62 since returning as an expansion franchise in 1999, have 13 players on injured reserve, including six starters. The injuries may be a legitimate reason for Cleveland's current state under Davis, but the Browns aren't the only team to have players go down.

"Anytime you get four years, four years should be enough," said tight end Aaron Shea. "Injuries played a role but other teams have injuries, too. I don't think you can use that as an excuse. Maybe the change is for the best."

With the losses piling up, Davis' demeanor changed noticeably. His confidence had been shaken at the realization his plan to rebuild the Browns wasn't working.

In a statement, Davis cited "intense pressure and scrutiny" as the driving forces behind his resignation.

"I accept responsibility for the mistakes that we have made," Davis said, "but it was my and my staff's intention to do everything we could to lay the foundation and build a team that could win a Super Bowl. I hope that some of my decisions we have made will be a part of a brighter future for the Browns organization.

"My future is clear for the moment. I have no immediate plans to stay in coaching."

Davis, who brought the Hurricanes back to national prominence before joining the Browns, will likely be a candidate for the coaching opening at Florida.

Davis fought back tears during a meeting as he told Cleveland's players he was leaving.

"I didn't expect him to be emotional like that," said fullback Terrelle Smith. "He opened up his heart to us. He told us the story about his family and that makes you feel bad. But life goes on. I hate to see him go."
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Old 12-28-2005, 11:03 AM   #6
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That is good news if it is true because the NFL banned giving draft picks for coaches 2 years ago.
Why is it good news?
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Old 12-28-2005, 11:38 AM   #7
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Why is it good news?
It is great news because there is no way in hell I want Butch Davis to be our new HC and since he is under contract I don't think they can get him because the NFL banned giving draft picks for all coaches.

Of course if the Chiefs wanted him bad enough there is probably some way to make it happen.
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Old 12-28-2005, 11:41 AM   #8
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It is great news because there is no way in hell I want Butch Davis to be our new HC and since he is under contract I don't think they can get him because the NFL banned giving draft picks for all coaches.
I'll agree wit dat.
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Old 12-28-2005, 11:45 AM   #9
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I'd rather not see Butch Davis coaching the Chiefs.
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