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Old 12-30-2005, 02:14 PM  
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GM Phil Savage about to be fired?

Pack your shit Carl, it's time to go:

http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=2275447

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The Cleveland Browns plan to fire senior vice president and general manager Phil Savage, NFL sources told ESPN's Chris Mortensen on Friday.

The split is over "philosophical differences," primarily salary cap management. The announcement could come as early as Friday, Mortensen reported. Savage could not be reached for comment.

Atlanta Falcons chief administration officer Ray Anderson is a candidate to replace Savage, who joined the Browns on Jan. 6.

The Browns, who are 5-10 in coach Romeo Crennel's first season in Cleveland, play Baltimore on Sunday.

Savage spent the past nine seasons with the Baltimore Ravens organization, including 2003-04 as the Ravens' director of player personnel. He is known as one of the NFL's top talent evaluators.

In Baltimore, the 14-year veteran of the league, worked directly with general manager Ozzie Newsome to oversee college and pro scouting. While there, Savage was involved in many of the day-to-day operations of the team and also negotiated contracts of late-round draft picks.
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Old 12-30-2005, 02:16 PM   #2
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A talent evaluater that's actually good at his job. I doubt the Chiefs know people like this even exist.
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Old 12-30-2005, 05:59 PM   #3
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A talent evaluater that's actually good at his job. I doubt the Chiefs know people like this even exist.
Good at his job?

Maybe on the defensive side, but where's the talent on offense in Baltimore?
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Old 12-30-2005, 06:09 PM   #4
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Maybe on the defensive side, but where's the talent on offense in Baltimore?


like he said ... carl pack your chit, we got offense
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Old 12-30-2005, 06:15 PM   #5
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Good at his job?

Maybe on the defensive side, but where's the talent on offense in Baltimore?
He works for the Browns. The Baltimore O isn't his fault.
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Old 12-30-2005, 06:18 PM   #6
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Old 12-30-2005, 06:36 PM   #7
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He works for the Browns. The Baltimore O isn't his fault.
Read the article.

He joined the Browns in Jan, after spending nine seasons as the Ravens director of player personnel.
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Old 12-30-2005, 06:38 PM   #8
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Read the article.

He joined the Browns in Jan, after spending nine seasons as the Ravens director of player personnel.
Well f**k me running.
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Old 12-30-2005, 09:22 PM   #9
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I have no idea what the Browns are thinking. Savage was/is a pretty hot prospect at GM, having worked closely with Ozzie Newsome in Baltimore and developing what should be an extremely solid background for a GM gig.

To get poop canned after just one year is extremely odd indeed.
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Old 12-30-2005, 09:36 PM   #10
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Good at his job?

Maybe on the defensive side, but where's the talent on offense in Baltimore?
I'd still take Baltimores drafts over ours hands down.
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Old 12-30-2005, 09:42 PM   #11
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I have no idea what the Browns are thinking. Savage was/is a pretty hot prospect at GM, having worked closely with Ozzie Newsome in Baltimore and developing what should be an extremely solid background for a GM gig.

To get poop canned after just one year is extremely odd indeed.
He came in 2nd in some kind of a power struggle with Romeo Crennel?
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Old 12-30-2005, 09:44 PM   #12
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Ravens have had offensive talent. Ogden is among the top left tackles. Jamal Lewis was great, but so overused he's burnt out.

They had a serviceable QB -- not great, certainly, but serviceable enough to win a SB, so they promptly downgraded to a string of nobodies and have struggled worse since.

And, I would certainly imagine that the front office deferred to Billick quite alot on the offensive side of the ball, much to its detriment as he's done nothing for that offense.
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Old 12-30-2005, 09:45 PM   #13
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He came in 2nd in some kind of a power struggle with Romeo Crennel?
Possible. I believe RAC was hired before Savage, so he wasn't necessarily Savage's pick.

Seems strange to me that RAC and Savage couldn't work together. Both have some Bill Belichick background pedigree (Savage worked with Newsome, who was a Belichick guy back in Cleveland ....not sure if Savage worked for the old Browns too, but I seem to think he did).
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Old 12-30-2005, 11:58 PM   #14
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