Edwards talks heating up-Teicher

C-Mac · 01-05-2006, 08:07 AM

Edwards talks heating up
Chiefs would need to give up draft pick
By ADAM TEICHERThe Kansas City Star

Long before Dick Vermeil made his retirement announcement, speculation centered on Herman Edwards as his replacement as the Chiefs head coach.
So it should be no surprise that the negotiations that would bring Edwards to the Chiefs appeared to intensify Wednesday. The Chiefs need to pry Edwards away from New York, where he has two seasons remaining on his contract with the Jets.
The Chiefs would need to compensate the Jets with at least one draft pick.
There was no official comment from either the Chiefs or the Jets on Wednesday. Edwards’ agent, Gary O’Hagan, indicated he was waiting for both sides to come to an agreement so he could begin negotiations with the Chiefs on a new contract for Edwards.
“Anything that’s going on right now doesn’t involve me,” O’Hagan said.
The NFL must approve the terms of the trade before any Chiefs negotiations with Edwards can begin.
Reports of negotiations between the Chiefs and Jets surfaced Wednesday on a New York radio station, which initially indicated a deal was imminent before backing off. The Associated Press in New York later reported the sides were close to an agreement.
Chiefs president/general manager Carl Peterson has interviewed Chiefs offensive coordinator Al Saunders and his Baltimore counterpart, Jim Fassel, since Vermeil retired with Sunday’s win over Cincinnati.
He may just have been biding his time, or perhaps creating some leverage for his discussions with the Jets.
In the 51-year-old Edwards, the Chiefs would be getting a defensive-savvy coach who could help solve some of their long-standing problems. He is known as an energetic coach and a good teacher.
Edwards is also personable and relates well to his players. That makes him a chip off the Vermeil block. Edwards played cornerback for Vermeil with Philadelphia more than 20 years ago.
His teams went to the playoffs three times in his five seasons with New York but had a 39-41 record overall. The Jets were 4-12 this season.
One of Edwards’ weaknesses is generally acknowledged to be his game-day coaching. His time-management mistakes have repeatedly cost the Jets.
Peterson and Edwards have long had a close relationship. Edwards at one time thought that if he would ever get a head coaching job, it would be for Peterson.
Peterson granted Edwards, then an assistant coach for Tampa Bay, an interview in January 1999 for the Chiefs’ head coaching job, then vacant after Marty Schottenheimer’s departure.
“I was a lot more serious about Herm after the interview,” Peterson said in a 2001 interview. “He was thorough and prepared. I was very impressed with what he had prepared to show me of how he would do things as a head coach, from the smallest detail to the most important aspects, throughout the entire year, not just the season.
“He’s a great communicator. Talk to any of his players, black or white. It doesn’t matter. Herman relates. I felt at that time he was very close to being ready to become a head coach, if he wasn’t already.”

siberian khatru · 01-05-2006, 08:12 AM

Teicher had nothing. NOTHING. He has not a single source of his own to confirm or deny. The best he can do is cite other media.

Piss-poor reporting for a beat writer.

C-Mac · 01-05-2006, 08:14 AM

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Originally Posted by siberian khatru

Teicher had nothing. NOTHING. He has not a single source of his own to confirm or deny. The best he can do is cite other media.

Piss-poor reporting for a beat writer.

Guess he didnt want to be left out....

Branden Albert's Huge Balls · 01-05-2006, 08:31 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by siberian khatru

Teicher had nothing. NOTHING. He has not a single source of his own to confirm or deny. The best he can do is cite other media.

Piss-poor reporting for a beat writer.

Dude.

"There was no official comment from either the Chiefs or the Jets on Wednesday."

What do you expect him to do if he can't squeeze blood out of a stone?

What more could Teicher have done with this article?

siberian khatru · 01-05-2006, 08:43 AM

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Originally Posted by gochiefs

Dude.

"There was no official comment from either the Chiefs or the Jets on Wednesday."

What do you expect him to do if he can't squeeze blood out of a stone?

What more could Teicher have done with this article?

It's his job to have sources other than "official comments." Official comments are worthless. His job is to develop sources inside the Chiefs and around the league who will feed him UNOFFICIAL information. Other media have managed to obtain this information.

Branden Albert's Huge Balls · 01-05-2006, 08:48 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by siberian khatru

It's his job to have sources other than "official comments." Official comments are worthless. His job is to develop sources inside the Chiefs and around the league who will feed him UNOFFICIAL information. Other media have managed to obtain this information.

He went to one of those sources. The agent.

What new information came out of other media that Teicher didn't have?

How do you know he DIDN'T have other sources? They may not have known anything.

siberian khatru · 01-05-2006, 09:02 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by gochiefs

He went to one of those sources. The agent.

What new information came out of other media that Teicher didn't have?

How do you know he DIDN'T have other sources? They may not have known anything.

The agent didn't know? Then find another source.

Teicher had to write this -- "Reports of negotiations between the Chiefs and Jets surfaced Wednesday on a New York radio station, which initially indicated a deal was imminent before backing off. The Associated Press in New York later reported the sides were close to an agreement." -- rather than citing his own sources. A Chiefs beat writer shouldn't have to do that.

I don't know he didn't have other sources. If he did and they didn't know anything, then he's got bad sources. Because something is going down -- the teams are talking, whether it comes to fruition or not -- somebody in Arrowhead knows something. It's his job to find them and get them to talk. A good reporter will develop good and reliable sources.

StcChief · 01-05-2006, 09:45 AM

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Originally Posted by siberian khatru

The agent didn't know? Then find another source.

Teicher had to write this -- "Reports of negotiations between the Chiefs and Jets surfaced Wednesday on a New York radio station, which initially indicated a deal was imminent before backing off. The Associated Press in New York later reported the sides were close to an agreement." -- rather than citing his own sources. A Chiefs beat writer shouldn't have to do that.

I don't know he didn't have other sources. If he did and they didn't know anything, then he's got bad sources. Because something is going down -- the teams are talking, whether it comes to fruition or not -- somebody in Arrowhead knows something. It's his job to find them and get them to talk. A good reporter will develop good and reliable sources.

I'd rather he say what he has (if nothing) give background on situation.

Than make up a story, that they have to back off of if it doesn't pan out.
See the NY Media for this approach.
they are closer to the Jets and have their insiders. But jumped the gun.

siberian khatru · 01-05-2006, 09:52 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by nm_dbf

I'd rather he say what he has (if nothing) give background on situation.

Than make up a story, that they have to back off of if it doesn't pan out.
See the NY Media for this approach.
they are closer to the Jets and have their insiders. But jumped the gun.

The radio station pulled an Athan -- they overpromised. They said a deal was imminent. Then backed off the imminent part. The core story -- that the Chiefs and Jets are talking -- remains intact (which is what the AP reported).

That's what Teicher should've been able to nail down on his end. He should've been able to report that "Sources with the Chiefs confirmed that the two clubs are discussing a compensation deal that would allow Edwards to become the Chiefs' next coach."

siberian khatru · 01-05-2006, 11:49 AM

Let me be clear to anyone who might be interested:

You do not print what you don't know. If you don't know, it's best to go with what you've got. Which is what Teicher did here. What he and the Star did was responsible.

My complaint is that as the beat writer he should know more.

tommykat · 01-05-2006, 12:09 PM

Talks heat up and talks are called off....No one knows chit around here or any place right now.

I still say Fisher as coach....

Mr. Laz · 01-05-2006, 12:28 PM

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Originally Posted by C-Mac

One of Edwards’ weaknesses is generally acknowledged to be his game-day coaching. His time-management mistakes have repeatedly cost the Jets

Nick Athan · 01-05-2006, 12:49 PM

Tiecher is a hack!!1

01-05-2006, 08:07 AM
C-Mac Lurker Extraordinaire Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Wally World Casino cash: $44395	Edwards talks heating up-Teicher Edwards talks heating up Chiefs would need to give up draft pick By ADAM TEICHERThe Kansas City Star Long before Dick Vermeil made his retirement announcement, speculation centered on Herman Edwards as his replacement as the Chiefs head coach. So it should be no surprise that the negotiations that would bring Edwards to the Chiefs appeared to intensify Wednesday. The Chiefs need to pry Edwards away from New York, where he has two seasons remaining on his contract with the Jets. The Chiefs would need to compensate the Jets with at least one draft pick. There was no official comment from either the Chiefs or the Jets on Wednesday. Edwards’ agent, Gary O’Hagan, indicated he was waiting for both sides to come to an agreement so he could begin negotiations with the Chiefs on a new contract for Edwards. “Anything that’s going on right now doesn’t involve me,” O’Hagan said. The NFL must approve the terms of the trade before any Chiefs negotiations with Edwards can begin. Reports of negotiations between the Chiefs and Jets surfaced Wednesday on a New York radio station, which initially indicated a deal was imminent before backing off. The Associated Press in New York later reported the sides were close to an agreement. Chiefs president/general manager Carl Peterson has interviewed Chiefs offensive coordinator Al Saunders and his Baltimore counterpart, Jim Fassel, since Vermeil retired with Sunday’s win over Cincinnati. He may just have been biding his time, or perhaps creating some leverage for his discussions with the Jets. In the 51-year-old Edwards, the Chiefs would be getting a defensive-savvy coach who could help solve some of their long-standing problems. He is known as an energetic coach and a good teacher. Edwards is also personable and relates well to his players. That makes him a chip off the Vermeil block. Edwards played cornerback for Vermeil with Philadelphia more than 20 years ago. His teams went to the playoffs three times in his five seasons with New York but had a 39-41 record overall. The Jets were 4-12 this season. One of Edwards’ weaknesses is generally acknowledged to be his game-day coaching. His time-management mistakes have repeatedly cost the Jets. Peterson and Edwards have long had a close relationship. Edwards at one time thought that if he would ever get a head coaching job, it would be for Peterson. Peterson granted Edwards, then an assistant coach for Tampa Bay, an interview in January 1999 for the Chiefs’ head coaching job, then vacant after Marty Schottenheimer’s departure. “I was a lot more serious about Herm after the interview,” Peterson said in a 2001 interview. “He was thorough and prepared. I was very impressed with what he had prepared to show me of how he would do things as a head coach, from the smallest detail to the most important aspects, throughout the entire year, not just the season. “He’s a great communicator. Talk to any of his players, black or white. It doesn’t matter. Herman relates. I felt at that time he was very close to being ready to become a head coach, if he wasn’t already.”
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siberian khatru 21st Century Schizoid Fan Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: The Gates of Delirium Casino cash: $90446	Teicher had nothing. NOTHING. He has not a single source of his own to confirm or deny. The best he can do is cite other media. Piss-poor reporting for a beat writer. __________________ If you make enough good decisions, three-year plans turn into two-year plans and five-year plans turn into three-year plans. If you make bad decisions, 10-year plans turn into no plan. -- Dayton Moore, 2006
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siberian khatru 21st Century Schizoid Fan Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: The Gates of Delirium Casino cash: $90446	Let me be clear to anyone who might be interested: You do not print what you don't know. If you don't know, it's best to go with what you've got. Which is what Teicher did here. What he and the Star did was responsible. My complaint is that as the beat writer he should know more. __________________ If you make enough good decisions, three-year plans turn into two-year plans and five-year plans turn into three-year plans. If you make bad decisions, 10-year plans turn into no plan. -- Dayton Moore, 2006
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