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Old 01-07-2006, 01:08 AM  
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Whitlock: Chiefs steal play from the Colts

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Chiefs steal play from Colts
JASON WHITLOCK
Kansas City Star

Thereís virtually no mystery to what is driving Carl Petersonís desire to hire Herm Edwards as the replacement for Dick Vermeil.

Peterson is an uncomplicated general manager working in a copycat league.

Bill Polian, the general manager of the Indianapolis Colts, is the best GM in professional football. Heís been chosen NFL executive of the year five times. He built the Super Bowl Buffalo Bills. He jumped to the expansion Carolina Panthers and quickly turned them into a Super Bowl threat. And now, this season, Polian has constructed the most complete football team of the salary-cap era.

Bill Polian is the football man Carl Peterson wishes he was.

Well, in 2002, shortly after firing Jim Mora primarily because the Colts had one of the leagueís leakiest defenses and one of its most explosive offenses, Polian hired Tony Dungy to lead the Colts one week after Dungy had been fired by the Tampa Bay Buccaneers.

Dungy, a defensive-minded coach, had been canned by the Bucs because he was perceived to be an ultraconservative offensive coach with poor clock-management skills.

Polian didnít care about Dungyís perceived shortcomings. Polian cared about Dungyís high character, uncanny ability to lead men and ďCover 2Ē defensive genius. Polian figured that Peyton Manning and holdover offensive coordinator Tom Moore could keep Indyís offense rolling and Dungy could fix the D.

Polian was right. Dungy, Manning and Moore are the new envy of the NFL, replacing Belichick, Brady and Weis.

Peterson is hoping that Edwards, the recently disposed Tony Dungy disciple from the Jets, can team with Trent Green and a yet-to-be-hired offensive coordinator and duplicate Indyís success.

Itís a beautiful plan Ö as long as Edwards buys in, Peterson retains offensive coordinator Al Saunders or lands a suitable replacement and Peterson gives Edwards the freedom to build a defensive coaching staff to his liking.

You see, things work in Indianapolis because Dungy totally trusts Manning and Moore and because Dungy has shaken his Marty Schottenheimer offensive instincts. Dungy coaches without ego. He lets Manning and Moore do their thing without worrying about who gets the credit.

Edwards is a lot like Dungy in many respects. Theyíre both high-character individuals with strong faith. But Edwards is a bit more unpredictable, more volatile. Dungy never raises his voice. Edwards doesnít mind getting sassy with the people who challenge his decisions.

Having said all of that, Edwards is far too intelligent not to recognize the similarities between his situation and Dungyís. Edwards is too smart to screw this up. Heís leaving a team that finished 4-12 and needs to be rebuilt, and joining a 10-6 squad that has a chance to compete next season.

The key will be talking with quarterback Trent Green and landing the right offensive coordinator. In my opinion, there are three options:

1. Al Saunders: Heís likely going to get a head-coaching job somewhere else. Maybe the Chiefs could pay him $2 million a year to stay on as offensive coordinator. But Iím not sure Saunders and Green have the same type of chemistry as Moore and Manning. Saunders and Green donít have an equal partnership. Saunders believes in his system more than he does his personnel.

2. Norv Turner: Green absolutely loves Turner, who was just fired as head coach of the Raiders. Green credits Turner for being the guy who believed in him when no one else did when Green entered the league as a late-round draft pick. Turner was the coordinator of the Jimmy Johnson/Dallas Cowboys Super Bowl teams. There are a lot of similarities between KCís current offensive personnel and the personnel on those Dallas offenses ó punishing, run-blocking lines, Jay Novacek and Tony Gonzalez, Emmitt Smith and Larry Johnson, Troy Aikman and Green.

3. Mike Solari: Kansas Cityís offensive-line coach has earned the right to be a coordinator. He has the necessary intellect and temperament to be a play-caller. The only thing I question is whether his relationship with Green is deep enough to handle the kind of autonomy Edwards will need to give the offense.

Iím leaning toward Turner but would be satisfied with any of the three.
It also will be interesting to see what Edwards thinks of defensive coordinator Gunther Cunningham. Edwards, an assistant under Dungy at Tampa Bay, prefers the ďCover 2Ē scheme, which requires the safeties to hang back and the corners to cover the short zones. Itís quite a bit different than the blitz-happy, man-to-man schemes that made Cunningham famous in KC in the 1990s.

Well, anyway, I canít say that I disagree with King Carlís plan. If he pulls this off ó puts together the right coaching staff ó Iíll hold off on my ďDethrone the KingĒ campaign for at least another year. Iím excited about the hiring of Herm Edwards.

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Old 01-07-2006, 01:13 AM   #2
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Shit. Whitlock stole more of my damn material. I'm gonna call him out in one of my articles or something.
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Old 01-07-2006, 01:15 AM   #3
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2. Norv Turner: Green absolutely loves Turner, who was just fired as head coach of the Raiders. Green credits Turner for being the guy who believed in him when no one else did when Green entered the league as a late-round draft pick. Turner was the coordinator of the Jimmy Johnson/Dallas Cowboys Super Bowl teams. There are a lot of similarities between KCís current offensive personnel and the personnel on those Dallas offenses ó punishing, run-blocking lines, Jay Novacek and Tony Gonzalez, Emmitt Smith and Larry Johnson, Troy Aikman and Green.


I mentioned this in another thread about Edwards. If we could land Norv Turner as OC, this team would be very dangerous. Turner has coordinated superbowl champion offenses, and while the coordinator for the Miami Dolphins, Ricky Williams was a monster in the Miami offense.

The thought of Norv Turner coordinating an offense with Trent Green, Larry Johnson, and Tony Gonzalez is very exciting to me. Id love to see it happen.

If not, Id like to see Solari or Shea get the job and try to maintain the offense we have.
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Old 01-07-2006, 01:16 AM   #4
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I am a little suprised to see Whitlock supporting Norv Turner.
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Old 01-07-2006, 01:27 AM   #5
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The guy's credentials as an OC are solid. Superbowl rings are tough to argue with.

As a head coach, the guy isnt worth a hill of beans, but he can damn sure run an offense.
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Old 01-07-2006, 01:34 AM   #6
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The guy's credentials as an OC are solid. Superbowl rings are tough to argue with.

As a head coach, the guy isnt worth a hill of beans, but he can damn sure run an offense.
I think you misunderstand me, I figured Jason would choose to support at least one controversial candidate, but he actually picked three who will not stir up much of a controversy for his article.
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Old 01-07-2006, 01:34 AM   #7
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Good article by Whitlock. I'm on the Norv Turner bandwagon, too.

Germ Edwards is no defensive genious, though.

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Old 01-07-2006, 01:41 AM   #8
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Good article by Whitlock. I'm on the Norv Turner bandwagon, too.

Tony Dungy is no defensive genious, though.
You're on crack. His last name even starts with "D".
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Old 01-07-2006, 01:43 AM   #9
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Crap. I meant "Germ Edwards."
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Old 01-07-2006, 01:43 AM   #10
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You need an editor.
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You need an editor.
Everyone needs an editor. Groupthink is ideal when you're putting out a publication.

What really sucks is when you get some dumbass editing your writing who doesn't know what the hell she's doing.
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I am really glad that Whitlock wrote about something OTHER than another story about the front offices of the Chiefs and Jets clashing.
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I would have preferred Saunders being head coach and handing all defensive power and gameplanning over to a coordinator.
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Old 01-07-2006, 06:29 AM   #15
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Polian was right. Dungy, Manning and Moore are the new envy of the NFL, replacing Belichick, Brady and Weis.
Don't quite get this line, unless the Colts have some secret Superbowls they recently won? Current "media darlings" I will accept but not "envy of the NFL"
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