How much more $$$ does Edwards bring in for Lamar vs low profile coach like Saunders?

B_Ambuehl · 01-07-2006, 10:08 AM

Does anyone have any knowledge on team revenues etc? I was just doing a little mental masturbation and questioning on how, with all things being equal including wins and losses etc., how much more is a high profile coach worth to the bottom line of a team when compared to some unknown. I'm sure this has been looked at before.

With the "internal" reasoning and reality of most businesses and organizations being different then what they want the public to perceive, I'm just wondering how much of all of this is business related:

1. Carl to public: We need someone who we can win with. We're gonna go with the coach that gives us the best opportunity to win.

2. Lamar to Carl: We need someone with a profile that can compete with Vermeil so that we won't lose the xx million $$ that we brought in from that high profile coaching factor the last few years.

3. Carl to Al: You know how this business works. We need a recognizable name at the top or we stand to lose XXX amount of $$$ next year, but we want you here. Lamar has cleared me to match any offer you get so go interview, get your offers, and we'll meet up later.

nychief · 01-07-2006, 10:10 AM

Lamar is going to make a fortune on Herm Edwards Bobbleheads, you nailed it.

redbrian · 01-07-2006, 10:12 AM

Ok this begs the question, why is it bad for a sports team to make money?

Is this a blue collar – white collar thing, a union – boss thing or a haves and have not question?

It always puzzles me when fans scream at the teams to quit being cheap and just pay the player and his agent what ever they want.

Then turn around in the next breath and scream when the management raises ticket prices to meet escalating expenses and maintain a healthy profit margin.

stevieray · 01-07-2006, 10:15 AM

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Originally Posted by redbrian

Ok this begs the question, why is it bad for a sports team to make money?

Is this a blue collar – white collar thing, a union – boss thing or a haves and have not question?

It always puzzles me when fans scream at the teams to quit being cheap and just pay the player and his agent what ever they want.

Then turn around in the next breath and scream when the management raises ticket prices to meet escalating expenses and maintain a healthy profit margin.

Woodrow Call · 01-07-2006, 10:15 AM

I dont see a lot of teams tripping over themselves to hire Saunders.

IMO the Chiefs were the #1 job opening this offseason and the Chiefs got the #1 coach that was available. Money had nothing to do with it.

ChiefsCountry · 01-07-2006, 10:18 AM

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Originally Posted by Archie Bunker

I dont see a lot of teams tripping over themselves to hire Saunders.

IMO the Chiefs were the #1 job opening this offseason and the Chiefs got the #1 coach that was available. Money had nothing to do with it.

Ding. Ding. We have a winner.

redbrian · 01-07-2006, 10:25 AM

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Originally Posted by Archie Bunker

I dont see a lot of teams tripping over themselves to hire Saunders.

IMO the Chiefs were the #1 job opening this offseason and the Chiefs got the #1 coach that was available. Money had nothing to do with it.

I have to agree with this, after looking at the paper this morning I'm not so sure that Saunders is a lock for a head coaching job this year.

Unlike a certian unnamed enternet fan source, I don't think Al is in the number 1 slot for any team right now.

I think it plays well for the Chiefs to let Al test the water.

nychief · 01-07-2006, 10:26 AM

He might get the Raiders job - Al Davis is senile.

redbrian · 01-07-2006, 10:28 AM

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Originally Posted by nychief

He might get the Raiders job - Al Davis is senile.

Would anyone in their right mind go to work for that guy?

Davis is noted for messing with his head coaches, do you think AS would want to put himself in that position?

If the Chiefs were the top coaching job, the faiders are the bottom.

B_Ambuehl · 01-07-2006, 10:31 AM

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Ok this begs the question, why is it bad for a sports team to make money?

Is this a blue collar – white collar thing, a union – boss thing or a haves and have not question?

Oh not at all. I think it's perfectly fine for a business to make money just like I think it's perfectly fine for a governement or politician to do what they need to do to properly run their country. I just wish they would promote the real reasons instead of excuses.

nychief · 01-07-2006, 10:32 AM

They already have a sold out stadium - they are not hiring H.E. to sell more tickets. It is an absurd notion.

redbrian · 01-07-2006, 10:34 AM

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Originally Posted by B_Ambuehl

Oh not at all. I think it's perfectly fine for a business to make money just like I think it's perfectly fine for a governement or politician to do what they need to do to properly run their country. I just wish they would promote the real reasons instead of excuses.

Not following you on that one, but the reason for hiring Edwards is to shore up the defense (one of 2 weaknesses on this team, the other and the one needing more work is special teams).

milkman · 01-07-2006, 10:34 AM

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Originally Posted by B_Ambuehl

Does anyone have any knowledge on team revenues etc? I was just doing a little mental masturbation and questioning on how, with all things being equal including wins and losses etc., how much more is a high profile coach worth to the bottom line of a team when compared to some unknown. I'm sure this has been looked at before.

With the "internal" reasoning and reality of most businesses and organizations being different then what they want the public to perceive, I'm just wondering how much of all of this is business related:

1. Carl to public: We need someone who we can win with. We're gonna go with the coach that gives us the best opportunity to win.

2. Lamar to Carl: We need someone with a profile that can compete with Vermeil so that we won't lose the xx million $$ that we brought in from that high profile coaching factor the last few years.

3. Carl to Al: You know how this business works. We need a recognizable name at the top or we stand to lose XXX amount of $$$ next year, but we want you here. Lamar has cleared me to match any offer you get so go interview, get your offers, and we'll meet up later.

4. Al to Carl: Go **** yourself.

B_Ambuehl · 01-07-2006, 10:34 AM

Well that's why I asked if anyone had any good knowledge on NFL team revenues. I know the stadium is sold out but doesn't having a high profile coach bring in plenty of other forms of revenue?

nascher · 01-07-2006, 10:53 AM

i am not so sure if AS gets a HC job at all.

01-07-2006, 10:08 AM
B_Ambuehl Veteran Join Date: Apr 2005 Casino cash: $16815	How much more $$$ does Edwards bring in for Lamar vs low profile coach like Saunders? Does anyone have any knowledge on team revenues etc? I was just doing a little mental masturbation and questioning on how, with all things being equal including wins and losses etc., how much more is a high profile coach worth to the bottom line of a team when compared to some unknown. I'm sure this has been looked at before. With the "internal" reasoning and reality of most businesses and organizations being different then what they want the public to perceive, I'm just wondering how much of all of this is business related: 1. Carl to public: We need someone who we can win with. We're gonna go with the coach that gives us the best opportunity to win. 2. Lamar to Carl: We need someone with a profile that can compete with Vermeil so that we won't lose the xx million $$ that we brought in from that high profile coaching factor the last few years. 3. Carl to Al: You know how this business works. We need a recognizable name at the top or we stand to lose XXX amount of $$$ next year, but we want you here. Lamar has cleared me to match any offer you get so go interview, get your offers, and we'll meet up later.
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redbrian Veteran Join Date: Aug 2000 Location: Kansas City MO Casino cash: $3760	Ok this begs the question, why is it bad for a sports team to make money? Is this a blue collar – white collar thing, a union – boss thing or a haves and have not question? It always puzzles me when fans scream at the teams to quit being cheap and just pay the player and his agent what ever they want. Then turn around in the next breath and scream when the management raises ticket prices to meet escalating expenses and maintain a healthy profit margin.
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Woodrow Call Winter Is Coming Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Springfield MO Casino cash: $47285	I dont see a lot of teams tripping over themselves to hire Saunders. IMO the Chiefs were the #1 job opening this offseason and the Chiefs got the #1 coach that was available. Money had nothing to do with it.
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nychief MVP Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: NYC Casino cash: $31279	They already have a sold out stadium - they are not hiring H.E. to sell more tickets. It is an absurd notion. __________________ Good Time Charlie, Uncle Doobie and the Great Frisco Freakout.
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B_Ambuehl Veteran Join Date: Apr 2005 Casino cash: $16815	Well that's why I asked if anyone had any good knowledge on NFL team revenues. I know the stadium is sold out but doesn't having a high profile coach bring in plenty of other forms of revenue? __________________ Who's decision was it to fire Romeo" - Coleman C Hunt: "It was my decision but it was one that Scott agreed with" LOL
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