Home Mail MemberMap Chat (0) Wallpapers
Go Back   ChiefsPlanet > The Ed & Dave Lounge

Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
Old 01-07-2006, 10:08 AM  
B_Ambuehl B_Ambuehl is offline
Veteran
 
Join Date: Apr 2005
Casino cash: $5030
How much more $$$ does Edwards bring in for Lamar vs low profile coach like Saunders?

Does anyone have any knowledge on team revenues etc? I was just doing a little mental masturbation and questioning on how, with all things being equal including wins and losses etc., how much more is a high profile coach worth to the bottom line of a team when compared to some unknown. I'm sure this has been looked at before.

With the "internal" reasoning and reality of most businesses and organizations being different then what they want the public to perceive, I'm just wondering how much of all of this is business related:

1. Carl to public: We need someone who we can win with. We're gonna go with the coach that gives us the best opportunity to win.

2. Lamar to Carl: We need someone with a profile that can compete with Vermeil so that we won't lose the xx million $$ that we brought in from that high profile coaching factor the last few years.

3. Carl to Al: You know how this business works. We need a recognizable name at the top or we stand to lose XXX amount of $$$ next year, but we want you here. Lamar has cleared me to match any offer you get so go interview, get your offers, and we'll meet up later.
Posts: 2,098
B_Ambuehl is not part of the Right 53.B_Ambuehl is not part of the Right 53.B_Ambuehl is not part of the Right 53.B_Ambuehl is not part of the Right 53.B_Ambuehl is not part of the Right 53.B_Ambuehl is not part of the Right 53.B_Ambuehl is not part of the Right 53.B_Ambuehl is not part of the Right 53.B_Ambuehl is not part of the Right 53.B_Ambuehl is not part of the Right 53.B_Ambuehl is not part of the Right 53.
  Reply With Quote
Old 01-07-2006, 10:10 AM   #2
nychief nychief is offline
MVP
 
nychief's Avatar
 

Join Date: Mar 2002
Location: NYC
Casino cash: $5165
Lamar is going to make a fortune on Herm Edwards Bobbleheads, you nailed it.
__________________
Good Time Charlie, Uncle Doobie and the Great Frisco Freakout.
Posts: 5,911
nychief has just been standing around suckin' on a big ol' chili dog.nychief has just been standing around suckin' on a big ol' chili dog.nychief has just been standing around suckin' on a big ol' chili dog.nychief has just been standing around suckin' on a big ol' chili dog.nychief has just been standing around suckin' on a big ol' chili dog.nychief has just been standing around suckin' on a big ol' chili dog.nychief has just been standing around suckin' on a big ol' chili dog.nychief has just been standing around suckin' on a big ol' chili dog.nychief has just been standing around suckin' on a big ol' chili dog.nychief has just been standing around suckin' on a big ol' chili dog.nychief has just been standing around suckin' on a big ol' chili dog.
  Reply With Quote
Old 01-07-2006, 10:12 AM   #3
redbrian redbrian is offline
Veteran
 

Join Date: Aug 2000
Location: Kansas City MO
Casino cash: $5000
Ok this begs the question, why is it bad for a sports team to make money?

Is this a blue collar white collar thing, a union boss thing or a haves and have not question?

It always puzzles me when fans scream at the teams to quit being cheap and just pay the player and his agent what ever they want.

Then turn around in the next breath and scream when the management raises ticket prices to meet escalating expenses and maintain a healthy profit margin.
Posts: 3,899
redbrian ....proof positive that somebody pissed in the gene pool.redbrian ....proof positive that somebody pissed in the gene pool.
  Reply With Quote
Old 01-07-2006, 10:15 AM   #4
stevieray stevieray is offline
Ring of Fire
 
stevieray's Avatar
 

Join Date: Aug 2000
Casino cash: $5000
Quote:
Originally Posted by redbrian
Ok this begs the question, why is it bad for a sports team to make money?

Is this a blue collar white collar thing, a union boss thing or a haves and have not question?

It always puzzles me when fans scream at the teams to quit being cheap and just pay the player and his agent what ever they want.

Then turn around in the next breath and scream when the management raises ticket prices to meet escalating expenses and maintain a healthy profit margin.
Posts: 36,202
stevieray is obviously part of the inner Circle.stevieray is obviously part of the inner Circle.stevieray is obviously part of the inner Circle.stevieray is obviously part of the inner Circle.stevieray is obviously part of the inner Circle.stevieray is obviously part of the inner Circle.stevieray is obviously part of the inner Circle.stevieray is obviously part of the inner Circle.stevieray is obviously part of the inner Circle.stevieray is obviously part of the inner Circle.stevieray is obviously part of the inner Circle.
  Reply With Quote
Old 01-07-2006, 10:15 AM   #5
Woodrow Call Woodrow Call is offline
Winter Is Coming
 
Woodrow Call's Avatar
 

Join Date: Aug 2002
Location: Springfield MO
Casino cash: $5502
I dont see a lot of teams tripping over themselves to hire Saunders.

IMO the Chiefs were the #1 job opening this offseason and the Chiefs got the #1 coach that was available. Money had nothing to do with it.
Posts: 5,493
Woodrow Call must have mowed badgirl's lawn.Woodrow Call must have mowed badgirl's lawn.Woodrow Call must have mowed badgirl's lawn.Woodrow Call must have mowed badgirl's lawn.Woodrow Call must have mowed badgirl's lawn.Woodrow Call must have mowed badgirl's lawn.Woodrow Call must have mowed badgirl's lawn.Woodrow Call must have mowed badgirl's lawn.Woodrow Call must have mowed badgirl's lawn.Woodrow Call must have mowed badgirl's lawn.Woodrow Call must have mowed badgirl's lawn.
  Reply With Quote
Old 01-07-2006, 10:18 AM   #6
ChiefsCountry ChiefsCountry is online now
MVP
 
ChiefsCountry's Avatar
 

Join Date: Jan 2004
Location: Lake of the Ozarks
Casino cash: $7296
Quote:
Originally Posted by Archie Bunker
I dont see a lot of teams tripping over themselves to hire Saunders.

IMO the Chiefs were the #1 job opening this offseason and the Chiefs got the #1 coach that was available. Money had nothing to do with it.
Ding. Ding. We have a winner.
Posts: 28,184
ChiefsCountry is obviously part of the inner Circle.ChiefsCountry is obviously part of the inner Circle.ChiefsCountry is obviously part of the inner Circle.ChiefsCountry is obviously part of the inner Circle.ChiefsCountry is obviously part of the inner Circle.ChiefsCountry is obviously part of the inner Circle.ChiefsCountry is obviously part of the inner Circle.ChiefsCountry is obviously part of the inner Circle.ChiefsCountry is obviously part of the inner Circle.ChiefsCountry is obviously part of the inner Circle.ChiefsCountry is obviously part of the inner Circle.
  Reply With Quote
Old 01-07-2006, 10:25 AM   #7
redbrian redbrian is offline
Veteran
 

Join Date: Aug 2000
Location: Kansas City MO
Casino cash: $5000
Quote:
Originally Posted by Archie Bunker
I dont see a lot of teams tripping over themselves to hire Saunders.

IMO the Chiefs were the #1 job opening this offseason and the Chiefs got the #1 coach that was available. Money had nothing to do with it.
I have to agree with this, after looking at the paper this morning I'm not so sure that Saunders is a lock for a head coaching job this year.

Unlike a certian unnamed enternet fan source, I don't think Al is in the number 1 slot for any team right now.

I think it plays well for the Chiefs to let Al test the water.
Posts: 3,899
redbrian ....proof positive that somebody pissed in the gene pool.redbrian ....proof positive that somebody pissed in the gene pool.
  Reply With Quote
Old 01-07-2006, 10:26 AM   #8
nychief nychief is offline
MVP
 
nychief's Avatar
 

Join Date: Mar 2002
Location: NYC
Casino cash: $5165
He might get the Raiders job - Al Davis is senile.
__________________
Good Time Charlie, Uncle Doobie and the Great Frisco Freakout.
Posts: 5,911
nychief has just been standing around suckin' on a big ol' chili dog.nychief has just been standing around suckin' on a big ol' chili dog.nychief has just been standing around suckin' on a big ol' chili dog.nychief has just been standing around suckin' on a big ol' chili dog.nychief has just been standing around suckin' on a big ol' chili dog.nychief has just been standing around suckin' on a big ol' chili dog.nychief has just been standing around suckin' on a big ol' chili dog.nychief has just been standing around suckin' on a big ol' chili dog.nychief has just been standing around suckin' on a big ol' chili dog.nychief has just been standing around suckin' on a big ol' chili dog.nychief has just been standing around suckin' on a big ol' chili dog.
  Reply With Quote
Old 01-07-2006, 10:28 AM   #9
redbrian redbrian is offline
Veteran
 

Join Date: Aug 2000
Location: Kansas City MO
Casino cash: $5000
Quote:
Originally Posted by nychief
He might get the Raiders job - Al Davis is senile.
Would anyone in their right mind go to work for that guy?

Davis is noted for messing with his head coaches, do you think AS would want to put himself in that position?

If the Chiefs were the top coaching job, the faiders are the bottom.
Posts: 3,899
redbrian ....proof positive that somebody pissed in the gene pool.redbrian ....proof positive that somebody pissed in the gene pool.
  Reply With Quote
Old 01-07-2006, 10:31 AM   #10
B_Ambuehl B_Ambuehl is offline
Veteran
 

Join Date: Apr 2005
Casino cash: $5030
Quote:
Ok this begs the question, why is it bad for a sports team to make money?

Is this a blue collar white collar thing, a union boss thing or a haves and have not question?
Oh not at all. I think it's perfectly fine for a business to make money just like I think it's perfectly fine for a governement or politician to do what they need to do to properly run their country. I just wish they would promote the real reasons instead of excuses.
__________________
Who's decision was it to fire Romeo" - Coleman

C Hunt: "It was my decision but it was one that Scott agreed with"

LOL
Posts: 2,098
B_Ambuehl is not part of the Right 53.B_Ambuehl is not part of the Right 53.B_Ambuehl is not part of the Right 53.B_Ambuehl is not part of the Right 53.B_Ambuehl is not part of the Right 53.B_Ambuehl is not part of the Right 53.B_Ambuehl is not part of the Right 53.B_Ambuehl is not part of the Right 53.B_Ambuehl is not part of the Right 53.B_Ambuehl is not part of the Right 53.B_Ambuehl is not part of the Right 53.
  Reply With Quote
Old 01-07-2006, 10:32 AM   #11
nychief nychief is offline
MVP
 
nychief's Avatar
 

Join Date: Mar 2002
Location: NYC
Casino cash: $5165
They already have a sold out stadium - they are not hiring H.E. to sell more tickets. It is an absurd notion.
__________________
Good Time Charlie, Uncle Doobie and the Great Frisco Freakout.
Posts: 5,911
nychief has just been standing around suckin' on a big ol' chili dog.nychief has just been standing around suckin' on a big ol' chili dog.nychief has just been standing around suckin' on a big ol' chili dog.nychief has just been standing around suckin' on a big ol' chili dog.nychief has just been standing around suckin' on a big ol' chili dog.nychief has just been standing around suckin' on a big ol' chili dog.nychief has just been standing around suckin' on a big ol' chili dog.nychief has just been standing around suckin' on a big ol' chili dog.nychief has just been standing around suckin' on a big ol' chili dog.nychief has just been standing around suckin' on a big ol' chili dog.nychief has just been standing around suckin' on a big ol' chili dog.
  Reply With Quote
Old 01-07-2006, 10:34 AM   #12
redbrian redbrian is offline
Veteran
 

Join Date: Aug 2000
Location: Kansas City MO
Casino cash: $5000
Quote:
Originally Posted by B_Ambuehl
Oh not at all. I think it's perfectly fine for a business to make money just like I think it's perfectly fine for a governement or politician to do what they need to do to properly run their country. I just wish they would promote the real reasons instead of excuses.
Not following you on that one, but the reason for hiring Edwards is to shore up the defense (one of 2 weaknesses on this team, the other and the one needing more work is special teams).
Posts: 3,899
redbrian ....proof positive that somebody pissed in the gene pool.redbrian ....proof positive that somebody pissed in the gene pool.
  Reply With Quote
Old 01-07-2006, 10:34 AM   #13
milkman milkman is offline
Dumbass!
 
milkman's Avatar
 

Join Date: Aug 2000
Location: Leading the Marty bashing
Casino cash: $6915
Quote:
Originally Posted by B_Ambuehl
Does anyone have any knowledge on team revenues etc? I was just doing a little mental masturbation and questioning on how, with all things being equal including wins and losses etc., how much more is a high profile coach worth to the bottom line of a team when compared to some unknown. I'm sure this has been looked at before.

With the "internal" reasoning and reality of most businesses and organizations being different then what they want the public to perceive, I'm just wondering how much of all of this is business related:

1. Carl to public: We need someone who we can win with. We're gonna go with the coach that gives us the best opportunity to win.

2. Lamar to Carl: We need someone with a profile that can compete with Vermeil so that we won't lose the xx million $$ that we brought in from that high profile coaching factor the last few years.

3. Carl to Al: You know how this business works. We need a recognizable name at the top or we stand to lose XXX amount of $$$ next year, but we want you here. Lamar has cleared me to match any offer you get so go interview, get your offers, and we'll meet up later.
4. Al to Carl: Go **** yourself.
__________________
Posts: 64,289
milkman is obviously part of the inner Circle.milkman is obviously part of the inner Circle.milkman is obviously part of the inner Circle.milkman is obviously part of the inner Circle.milkman is obviously part of the inner Circle.milkman is obviously part of the inner Circle.milkman is obviously part of the inner Circle.milkman is obviously part of the inner Circle.milkman is obviously part of the inner Circle.milkman is obviously part of the inner Circle.milkman is obviously part of the inner Circle.
  Reply With Quote
Old 01-07-2006, 10:34 AM   #14
B_Ambuehl B_Ambuehl is offline
Veteran
 

Join Date: Apr 2005
Casino cash: $5030
Well that's why I asked if anyone had any good knowledge on NFL team revenues. I know the stadium is sold out but doesn't having a high profile coach bring in plenty of other forms of revenue?
__________________
Who's decision was it to fire Romeo" - Coleman

C Hunt: "It was my decision but it was one that Scott agreed with"

LOL
Posts: 2,098
B_Ambuehl is not part of the Right 53.B_Ambuehl is not part of the Right 53.B_Ambuehl is not part of the Right 53.B_Ambuehl is not part of the Right 53.B_Ambuehl is not part of the Right 53.B_Ambuehl is not part of the Right 53.B_Ambuehl is not part of the Right 53.B_Ambuehl is not part of the Right 53.B_Ambuehl is not part of the Right 53.B_Ambuehl is not part of the Right 53.B_Ambuehl is not part of the Right 53.
  Reply With Quote
Old 01-07-2006, 10:53 AM   #15
nascher nascher is offline
Veteran
 

Join Date: Sep 2004
Location: Hamburg Germany
Casino cash: $5000
i am not so sure if AS gets a HC job at all.
__________________
Posts: 1,016
nascher has disabled reputation
  Reply With Quote
Reply

Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is On

Forum Jump




All times are GMT -6. The time now is 10:45 PM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.0
Copyright ©2000 - 2014, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.