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Old 01-19-2006, 07:48 AM  
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Herman Edwards is EXACTLY what the Chiefs need!

Okay, so we're done with the hugs and kisses lovefest that came with the Vermeil "era". Now the Chiefs get the whip and the hammer in Edwards and Gunther. I think DV held back Gun, or Gun was somewhat muted in his approach. Maybe now this team will actually win a playoff game.

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Old 01-19-2006, 07:51 AM   #2
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I think you'll find Herm is more hugs and kisses than you think.
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Old 01-19-2006, 07:54 AM   #3
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If he can do what LJ alluded to and motivate the young defensive players to step up to the plate and perform (which must entail the coaches actually allowing them to go out and play), i'll be very happy.
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Old 01-19-2006, 08:07 AM   #4
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I think you'll find Herm is more hugs and kisses than you think.
I think you are 100% right and that's one of my beefs with Herm. I don't think we have a kick em in the ass coach with Herm and that's what I was hoping for.

Oh well, I said my peace yesterday and don't feel like rehashing it right now.
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Old 01-19-2006, 08:09 AM   #5
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I think you'll find Herm is more hugs and kisses than you think.
Not only that, but I think you'll find that Gunther's problems were more Gunther and less Vermeil.
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Old 01-19-2006, 08:16 AM   #6
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Okay, so we're done with hugs and kisses lovefest that came with the Vermeil "era". Now the Chiefs get the whip and the hammer in Edwards and Gunther. I think DV held back Gun, or Gun was somewhat muted in his approach. Maybe now this team will actually win a playoff game.

WRONGGGGGGGGGG.

Herm is just as touchy-feely as Vermeil. He's a "players coach" and discipline was an issue during his time with the Jets.

As for Vermeil holding Gunther back, there is nothing to hold back... Gunther is a fraud, an overrated defensive coach. As Vermeil "holding back" Gunther during Gunther's 2 seasons as HC of the Chiefs when the Chiefs' defense started taking a serious nose dive?

Get your head out of Gunther's ass and try a dose of reality
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Old 01-19-2006, 08:17 AM   #7
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I don't think we have a kick em in the ass coach with Herm and that's what I was hoping for.
I believe that Gun was supposed to be a kick them in the arse coach and look how far that got to us. As long as the players buy into him and his schemes they will step up and play better and I believe that the players are really excited about him being here.
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Old 01-19-2006, 08:22 AM   #8
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Old 01-19-2006, 08:25 AM   #9
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As for Vermeil holding Gunther back, there is nothing to hold back... Gunther is a fraud, an overrated defensive coach. As Vermeil "holding back" Gunther during Gunther's 2 seasons as HC of the Chiefs when the Chiefs' defense started taking a serious nose dive?
WTH?!? Vermeil wasn't here when Gun was HC. The D took a dive when the talent level dropped. Try to put together a solid thought before posting.

I guess I'm out of the Herm loop. From all the pressers I've seen, it looks like Edwards chews iron bars and spits out nails.
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Old 01-19-2006, 08:31 AM   #11
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Herman Edwards is EXACTLY what the Chiefs need!
Obviously this remains to be seen, but it will be interesting regardless of the outcome.

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The D took a dive when the talent level dropped.
Gunther just HAD to have Sylvester Morris.
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Old 01-19-2006, 08:40 AM   #13
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Gunther just HAD to have Sylvester Morris.
He might've been a playa had he not gotten hurt.
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Well my hope is that in year 3 with even more of "his" guys that Gunther can continue to improve the defense. I do think it improved last year....but then again so did our talent at least suposedly. We shall see.
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Old 01-19-2006, 08:43 AM   #15
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Herm is very touchy feely and yes discipline was an issue. That being said, the players will go through a wall for Herm (most anyway) but discipline is certainly an issue. J Abe had some issues and it sounds like LJ may as well.

One HUGE fault about Herm is that he is very loyal to vets. That doesn't sound so bad but when a vet is not playing as well, herm will never bench him or light a fire. He will pat him on the butt and give him a hug. That drove us crazy!

Still, like I said yesterday he has positives as well so I think he will have KC very competitive.
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