Big move in the Draft

chief118 · 01-30-2006, 08:25 PM

Is there any way the chiefs would make a big move in the drat to get an impact player that could make a differnce in '06. Like M. Williams or the top DT in the draft. If the

get T.O. and the faiders get the love boat from M.N. and the chargers are going to be able to pick before us. Isnt time for the Chiefs to do something big, make some kind of big statment? I'm a Die Hard Chiefs fan, and it kills me year after year that I have to watch my friends, or, one my family's member's team in the playoffs. I meen I'm ready to hit someone in the mouth if they talk about our team. Thats why CP needs to do something for the fans . The Chiefs fans are the best fans in the NFL, Make a big move for us we deserve it.

Dave Lane · 01-30-2006, 08:31 PM

We are way to far down (20th) to make a big jump and we need lots of fresh blood coming in as the vets are getting up there.

Dave

Logical · 01-30-2006, 08:42 PM

8 Ball says

It will be a cold day in hell first.

SoCalBronco · 01-30-2006, 08:43 PM

Generally speaking, you have to pay a substantial premium over and above what the often cited value chart says to move up in the draft. This is going to be even more severe in a deep draft like this. If you want to make a big move, your going to have to part with alot of really key assets.

chief118 · 01-30-2006, 08:51 PM

well we need to do something. we need to keep up with the other teams in the division, if they make a big move we need to make a big move.

Mecca · 01-30-2006, 08:55 PM

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Originally Posted by chief118

well we need to do something. we need to keep up with the other teams in the division, if they make a big move we need to make a big move.

There aren't going to be any big moves this year, we made those last year. This is the Chiefs down year in the 2 year cycle.......

SoCalBronco · 01-30-2006, 08:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Mecca

There aren't going to be any big moves this year, we made those last year. This is the Chiefs down year in the 2 year cycle.......

Im not sure about that. The Chiefs are holding all the cards with Priest Holmes. They can force him to take a deep pay cut. Also, it is unlikely Bell will see the second half of his bonus. So I think there is going to be money there. The key,as always is, are the Chiefs going to actually spend up to the hilt.

Hoover · 01-30-2006, 09:00 PM

What we need to do is make some solid FA moves and draft for the future.

In this draft I would look at Oline, D Line, DBs, and a HB.

The best thing about this team (if Roaf and Shields come back) is that there really isn't a huge hole to fill. Sure we could use some upgrades at certain positions, but thats ture with every team.

milkman · 01-30-2006, 09:10 PM

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Originally Posted by chief118

well we need to do something. we need to keep up with the other teams in the division, if they make a big move we need to make a big move.

My advise to you.

Hit your family members in the mouth.

Adept Havelock · 01-30-2006, 09:26 PM

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Originally Posted by SoCalBronco

The key,as always is, are the Chiefs going to actually spend up to the hilt.

We're close enough to the cap each year that I'm not really concerned about that. It's how much over/under we are and what we've got to work with as far as Players willing to renegotiate that I'd see as key.

dj56dt58 · 01-30-2006, 09:43 PM

I say we make a trade and trade our draft pick for 2 lower picks with at least one coming in the first round. I mean face it, you never know if a player is going to live up to his potential in the NFL. The more picks you get, even if they are lower, gives you a better shot at striking gold. Jared Allen was a 4th round pick....

Johnson&Johnson · 01-30-2006, 09:51 PM

picking 20th isn't as bad as you may think. the fact that this draft includes a lot of offensive firepower at the top, maybe there's a chance some defensive player might fall in between 10-20.

The key for us is to draft right. no more drafting a 1st rounder who can't contribute in 2006. We need to make sure our 1st round draft will start in 2006

leviw · 01-30-2006, 10:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Johnson&Johnson

picking 20th isn't as bad as you may think. the fact that this draft includes a lot of offensive firepower at the top, maybe there's a chance some defensive player might fall in between 10-20.

The key for us is to draft right. no more drafting a 1st rounder who can't contribute in 2006. We need to make sure our 1st round draft will start in 2006

Thought Derrick Johnson did a fine job conributing this year.

Johnson&Johnson · 01-30-2006, 10:24 PM

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Originally Posted by leviw

Thought Derrick Johnson did a fine job conributing this year.

Agreed. BUt I was refering more toward the years prior to DJ. The Ryan Simms (02), Slyvester Morris (00), Victor Riley (98), John Tait (99)
and what the F*** did we do with our 2004 1sr round pick? We traded down for extra picks we got (2nd rounders) Siavii and Kris Wilson.

All of the above mentioned did not do squat for us til their 2nd or 3rd season. I can understand reaching for a prospect in day 2 of the draft.

Here's a quick breakdown of our 1st rd picks

1998 Victor Riley
1999 John Tait
2000 Sylvester Morris
2001 (Trent Green) trade
2002 Ryan Simms
2003 *Larry Johnson
2004 (traded down for extra picks)
2005 Derrick Johnson
2006 -- seems like the Johnsons fair well when we draft them with our 1st round pick

Spicy McHaggis · 01-30-2006, 11:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Johnson&Johnson

picking 20th isn't as bad as you may think. the fact that this draft includes a lot of offensive firepower at the top, maybe there's a chance some defensive player might fall in between 10-20.

Last 5 years of the 20th pick.

Marcus Spears 2005
Kenechi Udeze 2004
George Foster 2003
Javon Walker 2002
Casey Hampton 2001

Not a bad group aside from the cheap shot Donkey. I agree that at 20th there isn't any reason we can't find talent that should start this coming year.

01-30-2006, 08:25 PM
chief118 LEGEND Join Date: Dec 2005 Casino cash: $1000	Big move in the Draft Is there any way the chiefs would make a big move in the drat to get an impact player that could make a differnce in '06. Like M. Williams or the top DT in the draft. If the get T.O. and the faiders get the love boat from M.N. and the chargers are going to be able to pick before us. Isnt time for the Chiefs to do something big, make some kind of big statment? I'm a Die Hard Chiefs fan, and it kills me year after year that I have to watch my friends, or, one my family's member's team in the playoffs. I meen I'm ready to hit someone in the mouth if they talk about our team. Thats why CP needs to do something for the fans . The Chiefs fans are the best fans in the NFL, Make a big move for us we deserve it.
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01-30-2006, 08:31 PM	#2
Dave Lane Space Cadet Join Date: Aug 2000 Location: Kansas City, Mo, USA Casino cash: $2197599	We are way to far down (20th) to make a big jump and we need lots of fresh blood coming in as the vets are getting up there. Dave __________________ Matt Cassel - 58.9 completion %, 13,495 yards, 82 TD, 57 INT, 24 Fumbles, 80.4 Passer Rating Alex Smith - 59.3 completion %, 14,280 yards, 81 TD, 63 INT, 36 Fumbles, 79.1 Passer Rating Do you realize the backups we have to this second coming of Matt Cassel have NEVER EVER thrown a regular season pass.
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SoCalBronco Nixonite Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Arcadia, CA Casino cash: $20062	Generally speaking, you have to pay a substantial premium over and above what the often cited value chart says to move up in the draft. This is going to be even more severe in a deep draft like this. If you want to make a big move, your going to have to part with alot of really key assets.
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01-30-2006, 08:51 PM	#5
chief118 LEGEND Join Date: Dec 2005 Casino cash: $1000	well we need to do something. we need to keep up with the other teams in the division, if they make a big move we need to make a big move.
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Hoover Rufus Dawes Jr. Join Date: Aug 2000 Casino cash: $41269	What we need to do is make some solid FA moves and draft for the future. In this draft I would look at Oline, D Line, DBs, and a HB. The best thing about this team (if Roaf and Shields come back) is that there really isn't a huge hole to fill. Sure we could use some upgrades at certain positions, but thats ture with every team.
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dj56dt58 Veteran Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Missouri Casino cash: $5830	I say we make a trade and trade our draft pick for 2 lower picks with at least one coming in the first round. I mean face it, you never know if a player is going to live up to his potential in the NFL. The more picks you get, even if they are lower, gives you a better shot at striking gold. Jared Allen was a 4th round pick....
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01-30-2006, 09:51 PM	#12
Johnson&Johnson Will 27+56 better 19+32? Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Gonzo's hometown Casino cash: $250	picking 20th isn't as bad as you may think. the fact that this draft includes a lot of offensive firepower at the top, maybe there's a chance some defensive player might fall in between 10-20. The key for us is to draft right. no more drafting a 1st rounder who can't contribute in 2006. We need to make sure our 1st round draft will start in 2006
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