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Old 02-16-2015, 02:30 PM  
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John Boehner just plain don't give a damn

Biggest douchebag in Washington, bar none. And Fux news is putting opinion pieces by Todd Starnes on their front page about how Obama is soft on ISIS.

Boehner says he would allow Homeland Security shutdown
http://www.nytimes.com/2015/02/16/us...down.html?_r=0
WASHINGTON — The House speaker, John A. Boehner, said Sunday that he was “certainly” prepared to allow funding for the Department of Homeland Security to lapse, raising the possibility that one of the government’s largest and most vital agencies could be shut down at the end of the month.

Coming just two months after Republicans gained full control of Congress, a shutdown would be a major political problem as the party tries to honor a vow to govern responsibly and cooperatively.

It would contradict a pledge from Senator Mitch McConnell of Kentucky, the majority leader, who said the day after his party won decisively at the polls in November, “There will be no government shutdowns.” And it would exacerbate a rift that has been growing between Republicans in the House and the Senate.

“The House has done its job; we’ve spoken,” Mr. Boehner said on “Fox News Sunday.” “If the Senate doesn’t like it, they’ll have to produce something that fits their institution.”

Pressed on whether he would, in effect, allow the department to shut down if the Senate does not come up with a funding bill of its own, the speaker said: “Certainly. The House has acted.”

In dispute is how to handle the issue of immigration. Last month, House Republicans passed a spending plan for the 240,000-employee department that included provisions to gut President Obama’s immigration policy. The bill would revoke legal protections for millions of unauthorized immigrants, including children, and put them at risk of deportation.

The House measure stands no chance of becoming law. Senate Democrats have filibustered it; Mr. Obama has said he would veto it; and even some Senate Republicans, including John McCain of Arizona, have questioned the wisdom of the House’s unyielding position, raising doubts that the bill would get even 51 Republican votes in the Senate.

A statement issued by a spokesman for Representative Nancy Pelosi, the House Democratic leader, said on Sunday that all of her caucus would vote for a “clean” Homeland Security bill — one that contained no immigration-related amendments — and urged the speaker to bring such a measure to a vote.

“Speaker Boehner made it clear that he has no plan to avoid a government shutdown that would threaten the safety of the American people,” the statement released by the spokesman, Drew Hammill, said. It called Mr. Boehner’s remarks “a sad reflection of the fact that the Tea Party continues to hold the gavel as they insist on their futile anti-immigrant grandstanding.”

Lawmakers are gone from Washington until next week, meaning that they have just four days in the Capitol in which to reach a deal before the department’s funding runs out on Feb. 27.

Mr. Boehner also spoke Sunday about another issue that has become a distraction: his invitation to Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu of Israel to speak before a joint meeting of Congress. The offer has prompted outrage in Israel and the United States from critics who say both leaders are using the speech for political gain.

Mr. Boehner said he had not consulted with the White House because he had wanted to make sure it did not interfere.

“There’s no secret here in Washington about the animosity that this White House has for Prime Minister Netanyahu,” he said. “And I frankly didn’t want them getting in the way and quashing what I thought was a real opportunity.”

Though Mr. Netanyahu has faced complaints at home as he campaigns for another term, he has declined to cancel the speech, which is set for March 3.
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Old 02-16-2015, 02:31 PM
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Old 02-16-2015, 02:33 PM   #2
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Good. Something that he is finally doing right, though I don't think he'll do it for long.

This is not a department we need. Plus, it has a Germany circa 1930's sound to it.

That being said, I don't agree with Bibi addressing congress. They are supposed to represent their constituents not a foreign country. I consider this foreign interference in our govt.
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Old 02-16-2015, 02:46 PM   #3
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"The bill would revoke legal protections for millions of unauthorized immigrants, including children, and put them at risk of deportation."

I guess I’m a little slow but, shouldn’t all illegal aliens be at risk of deportation?
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Old 02-16-2015, 02:52 PM   #4
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"The bill would revoke legal protections for millions of unauthorized immigrants, including children, and put them at risk of deportation."

I guess I’m a little slow but, shouldn’t all illegal aliens be at risk of deportation?
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Old 02-16-2015, 02:52 PM   #5
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Somehow it's always a republican! If was GW's fault when he was POTUS, not it's congress' now that Barry's POTUS.

**** it...

Plus, it's not like DHS isn't going to consider most of their people critical, so it's not like anything is going to stop, it just means that a lot of folks at DHS are going to do it for free for a while, be told they may, or may not ever get paid, then they'll all get paid.

So it's 100000% politics and JB should let it happen or face looking like a pussy.
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Old 02-16-2015, 02:54 PM   #6
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Old 02-16-2015, 03:03 PM   #7
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Obama owns this one. **** him.
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Old 02-16-2015, 03:14 PM   #8
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Obama owns this one. **** him.
Wait, what??? When was the last time he owned anything he didn't want?

Don't get me wrong, he should 100% own it, but let's not forget how uneducated and gullible his followers are....
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Old 02-16-2015, 04:20 PM   #9
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shutting down the DHS budget??? hahahahahaha

more empty rhetoric
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Old 02-16-2015, 04:24 PM   #10
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"The bill would revoke legal protections for millions of unauthorized immigrants, including children, and put them at risk of deportation."

I guess I’m a little slow but, shouldn’t all illegal aliens be at risk of deportation?
Obama looks at you and holds up DACA.
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On a related note, I went to a meeting the other day where a former elected official was talking about how to get programs funded.

It was disgusting, absolutely disgusting.

He was talking about how you backdoor programs in and use trickery to get things funded, and then he said, "If you're trying to get funding passed, your bill sponsor is important. If it's someone from a battleground district, they will have a target on their back. Nothing they ever propose will get passed, because the other party wants to win that seat back."

Apparently merit has zero to do with legislation these days. Zero. And this guy was so proud and excited about the whole process that he was practically jumping up and down as he described it.

I just want every incumbent out the door so badly. You can't knock out 20 percent of the incumbents and fix the system. You have to vote out every single incumbent, and of course the challenge with that is that their elections are all staggered.

It was absolutely disgusting.
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"The bill would revoke legal protections for millions of unauthorized immigrants, including children, and put them at risk of deportation."

I guess I’m a little slow but, shouldn’t all illegal aliens be at risk of deportation?
Your transparent attempt to persecute undocumented democrats is just plain cruel.
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Unless they got here and dont have parents. The kids here with there parents illegally need to go back home with there parents.
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I've never liked the idea of DHS. They are the "FEMA" everyone in tin foil hats used to talk about. They are leaving our borders susceptible to whomever wants to cross, they are militarizing our police and they are training daily for the eventual government take over of the U.S.

This is very real and it's happening in plain sight because, you know, they are here to protect us and stuff.

In this new world order, it is not possible for the U.S. to control other countries like we have in the past. So now it's easier to control your own people. They know what is coming. They know the middle class is about to break and we are a frog hair away from having an uber-rich class and the peasants. We continue to outsource our labor, stagnate our wages, drive up costs of goods, destabilize job security and push people more and more to depend on the government. All this while corporations and the rich get richer.

There is a breaking point and to pretend otherwise is to have your head in the sand.

As far as I am concerned shutting down DHS is a small step in the right direction.
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Old 02-16-2015, 05:42 PM   #15
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I don't care for DHS because it was claimed after 9/11 that the laws changed in the 70's preventing CIA and FBI to share information and coordinate which was a factor in 9/11. So adding another massive bureaucracy is not the answer. Just repeal those old laws.
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