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Old 09-12-2013, 03:33 PM  
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NEW YORK -- Machine guns are illegal in the U.S. for most people, but one small company has found a way around that.

Slide Fire, based in Moran, Texas, plans to sell a semiautomatic rifle that mimics the rapid fire of a machine gun and is also fed bullets from a belt, which provides a huge capacity for ammunition -- potentially thousands of rounds.

Brandon Renner, sales and marketing manager for Slide Fire, says the belt-fed rifle, called the SFS BFR, will be available this fall and sell for $6,000.

"It sprays like a fire hose," said Renner. "We recommend no more than 30 rounds on the belt, but one person could make it as big as they want."

Can that be legal?

The Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives says yes, since it's still technically a semiautomatic.

The key is that of the pieces that make up a gun, the ATF regulates only the "receiver." It's the only piece that has a serial number and the only one that requires a background check to purchase. Slide Fire modifies the trigger and the stock -- the butt of the gun that sits against the shooter's shoulder.

Slide Fire's technology uses the recoil of the rifle shot to "bump" the gun, speeding up the rate of fire without changing the gun's classification as a semiautomatic, which requires that only one round is fired each time the trigger is pulled.

In a 2010 letter posted on Slide Fire's website, the ATF wrote: "We find that the 'bump-stock' is a firearm part and is not regulated as firearm under the Gun Control Act or the National Firearms act."

"I can confirm that ATF did approve the device referenced in the letter and that the Slide Fire is legal," said ATF spokesman Christopher Amon.

Slide Fire already sells bump-stocks for $370 that speed up the rate of fire for semiautomatics. The company also sells semiautomatic rifles that have already been accessorized for bump-fire, costing between $1,150 to $1,950. But these guns use magazines, not belts, and thus have limited ammo capacity.

A spokeswoman for Wal-Mart (WMT), one of the largest gun sellers in America, said the company does not sell Slide Fire products, and will not be offering the belt-fed rifle.

Another major dealer, Cabela's (CAB), did not return messages from CNNMoney about Slide Fire. But the company's website listed Slide Fire products for sale.

James Hill, owner of the Abilene Indoor Gun Range, located about 50 miles away from Slide Fire's headquarters, said he sells the company's bump-fire accessories and they're quite popular with his customers.

But Hill, who referred to the Slide Fire products as "a poor man's machine gun," doesn't plan to sell the belt-fed gun, because he doesn't believe there will be much of a demand for it.

He said the Slide Fire rifle is a bit more challenging to fire than a fully automatic weapon, but the "learning curve" can be corrected with a bit of practice.

"It's not as easy [as full auto], but it's fairly idiot proof," he said.
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Old 09-12-2013, 03:35 PM   #2
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Old 09-12-2013, 03:37 PM   #3
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Bump fire stocks have been around for awhile.

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Old 09-12-2013, 03:44 PM   #4
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Old 09-12-2013, 04:07 PM   #5
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Bump fire stocks have been around for awhile.

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Do you know the difference between a machine gun & a automatic rifle?
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Old 09-12-2013, 04:11 PM   #6
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Old 09-12-2013, 04:12 PM   #7
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Old 09-12-2013, 04:15 PM   #8
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cant answer the question.
I can.

I can, also, write a proper sentence. You, on the other hand, can't.
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Old 09-12-2013, 05:03 PM   #9
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Old 09-12-2013, 05:20 PM   #10
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I got one for my AK. There's a knack to using it that I couldn't quite master before running out of the ammo I had, although I got it to work a little. Seems gimmicky, IMO - one of many gun things that looks cooler on the internet than it actually is. I also think it's better to shoot for accuracy rather than spray n pray. I ended up removing it and replaced it with a standard Dragunov stock, but I still have it. Maybe I'll give it another shot someday.
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Old 09-12-2013, 05:43 PM   #11
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Bump fire stocks have been around for awhile.

You need to step your troll game up.
Damn - beat to the punch by the hipster.

Yeah, bump-firing is nothing new. There's a place in Columbia that sells them for ARs off the shelf.

Nothing new.
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Old 09-12-2013, 05:58 PM   #12
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Old 09-12-2013, 06:04 PM   #13
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I got one for my AK. There's a knack to using it that I couldn't quite master before running out of the ammo I had, although I got it to work a little. Seems gimmicky, IMO - one of many gun things that looks cooler on the internet than it actually is. I also think it's better to shoot for accuracy rather than spray n pray. I ended up removing it and replaced it with a standard Dragunov stock, but I still have it. Maybe I'll give it another shot someday.
Full auto fire is fun....but often entirely useless. Why? Because it's completely inaccurate beyond the first 2 shots.

Does anyone know why the US Army and marines went from 'Safe - semi - full auto' fire M16s to 'safe - semi - burst'? It's because all full auto did was waste ammo without them hitting anything.

That's the irony...contrary to what Hollywood would have you believe, full auto guns are often less lethal than semi-auto guns. What machine guns were designed for was to provide 'suppressive' fire. It's not designed to kill lots of people it's designed to fill an area with enough bullets that soldiers can't effectively move through and area. Hence the 'suppressing' their movement.

Controlled aimed fire is going to be far more deadly than spraying and praying.
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Old 09-12-2013, 06:10 PM   #14
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Full auto fire is fun....but often entirely useless. Why? Because it's completely in accurate beyond the first 2 shots.

Does anyone know why the US Army and marines went from 'Safe - semi - full auto' fire M16s to 'safe - semi - burst'? It's because all full auto did was waste ammo without them hitting anything.

That's the irony...contrary to what Hollywood would have you believe, full auto guns are often less lethal than semi-auto guns. What machine guns were designed for was to provide 'suppressive' fire. It's not designed to kill lots of people it's designed to fill an area with enough bullets that soldiers can't effectively move through and area. Hence the 'suppressing' their movement.

Controlled aimed fire is going to be far more deadly than spraying and praying.
Exactly. Spray and pray is for homey from the hood - I want to hit what I'm aiming at.
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Old 09-12-2013, 07:37 PM   #15
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Was there a sale on commas?
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