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Old 02-17-2006, 11:39 AM  
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I'm thinking about putting a security system in the house I am buying. Anyone have any experience with SecureNet? The installation is significantly cheaper than the other company I contacted, but I'm wondering if it's a "get what you pay for" sort of thing.
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Old 02-17-2006, 11:41 AM   #2
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Old 02-17-2006, 11:44 AM   #3
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We use ADT, had it installed during the build. Probably not the best, maybe not the cheapest....I was sold with them at the time.
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Old 02-17-2006, 11:49 AM   #4
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I have an Ademco system and it works fine...don't know anything about SecureNet. I also use Mr. Remington for backup. I was told by a neighbor who is a police officer that paying for alarm monitoring wasn't really worth it when it comes to intruders (it maybe okay for fires though) because it takes a while for someone to get there and, if the noise of the alarm doesn't scare the person off, you'll be in trouble before the police get there...thus the backup.
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Old 02-17-2006, 11:49 AM   #5
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Old 02-17-2006, 11:49 AM   #6
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We have ADT. NO significant complaints other than that they will charge you up the @SS for evry little thing they do.

In hindsight I would have gone with the security sytem Big Daddy has. Apparently it works extremely well as long as you feed it and take it for walks.
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Old 02-17-2006, 12:29 PM   #7
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When it comes to security alarms, it really depends on what you are wanting it for. Are you wanting it to protect your house while you aren't home or is it for "peace of mind" while you are sleeping. I'm a criminal justice major at Washburn University, and in the past I took a class called Crime Prevention. According to my teacher, who specializes in Crime Prevention, and works for the Overland Park Police Deptarment, he thinks alarms are a waste of money, and will actually end up costing you a lot more with false alarms, since most cities will charge you after a certain number of false alarms...and those charges can be up to $100 a pop.

Basically, what he said was this...if you travel a lot and want something to be looking over your house while you are gone, alarms are alright, but you must keep in mind that there is usually a 10 to 15 minute response time delay before an officer actually shows up. That is a lot more time than your average home burglar would take to grab whatever he's wanting, especially if your alarm isn't silent and tips the burglar off that he's set it off. Remember, most burglars "stake" out their target before they go in, so they will know if someone is home or not. If your alarm is on, but they know you aren't home, they know they have a good 5 mins to rummage through your house and still have enough time to run away before any sign of a cop.

Now, if you don't travel, and you simply want it for "peace of mind" while you're sleeping, you're basically just wasting $100's of dollars on the install and monthly fee that you could get what your really want by getting battery alarms like this http://www.firstalertalarm.com/
My teacher said that if you go through an alarm company, when their alarm is activated, they give you a 1 minute delay before they call you (1 minute to deactivate your alarm incase it was an accident) That's one minute you would just sit there in your house scared half to death because you think someones broken in to your house. You can't call 911 yourself, because security systems are designed to freeze your phone line so that they can call you after that minute is up. Then they have to confirm with the resident that the alarm is not false, and then they alert the police department. So, basically, after the alarm has gone off, there is about a 2-3 minute delay before the police are actually notified, thus making it 12 to 18 minutes before a police officer actually arrives.

Basically, he said you are much better off using something like those first alert alarm things (which is what I use on my apartment door and windows), or a security system that doesn't freeze your phone line, but simply just alerts you of an intruder, if you are using it for a "peace of mind" application. That way the minute the alarm is activated, you can call 911 yourself and save yourself about 2-3 minutes from that delay.

Basically, if you talked to my former teacher about security systems, he'd tell you to spend your money elsewhere (i.e better dead bolts on your front door, break-proof windows on the lower floor, etc.), because you'd just be wasting your money with the security system. Hope that helps. If you have any other questions, just ask.
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Old 02-17-2006, 12:35 PM   #8
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You can significantly cut down on intrusions just by putting the "protected by ADT" stickers on your doors...

I've read several studies that an alarm is not a deterrent for someone who has they're mind made up that they're breaking in (as thebrad84 mentioned) but the PRESENCE of an alarm will deter all but the most determined criminals...
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Old 02-17-2006, 12:40 PM   #9
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Put a "beware of vicious dog" sign up right above those ADT stickers.
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Old 02-17-2006, 12:42 PM   #10
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You can significantly cut down on intrusions just by putting the "protected by ADT" stickers on your doors...

I've read several studies that an alarm is not a deterrent for someone who has they're mind made up that they're breaking in (as thebrad84 mentioned) but the PRESENCE of an alarm will deter all but the most determined criminals...
Yep, I completely forgot to mention that. My teacher (sorry I keep saying that, but i dont want you to think this is just coming from some college student "that doesn't know anything") said that if you have a friend, neighbor, or family member that has ADT or some other security system, to ask them to call their provider and send them another sticker or sign "because theirs was stolen or lost" and the company should send them one pretty quickly. Then just take that sign in put it up near your front door, and it will deter most burglars away. However, like I already said, if the burglar has been watching you and knows you aren't home at certain times during the day or on vacation, he's probably not going to be too worried about that alarm if he really wants something from your home.
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Old 02-17-2006, 01:03 PM   #11
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However, like I already said, if the burglar has been watching you and knows you aren't home at certain times during the day or on vacation, he's probably not going to be too worried about that alarm if he really wants something from your home.

You make some good points. I would add that in addition to intrusion alert I have a home security system because:

1)It is linked to my sprinkler system. If there is ever a fire in my home the alarm will awaken us, the sprinklers/foamers will be triggered, and the fire department will be called automatically.

2)Homeowners insurance gives me a discount because I have the system that pretty much pays for the monthly fee.
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Old 02-17-2006, 01:19 PM   #12
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Thanks, guys. For me, it is both that I want security while I'm away and a warning at night. I will likely get a dog as well. The first guy I talked to with this company seemed to be pretty upfront, but the guy I got when I called back was more high-pressure. Not enough for me to dump the idea, but enough for me to ask that the owner call me back.
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Old 02-17-2006, 01:38 PM   #13
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My teacher said that if you go through an alarm company, when their alarm is activated, they give you a 1 minute delay before they call you (1 minute to deactivate your alarm incase it was an accident) That's one minute you would just sit there in your house scared half to death because you think someones broken in to your house. You can't call 911 yourself, because security systems are designed to freeze your phone line so that they can call you after that minute is up."
Our alarm company calls whether we deactivate the system or not,as for the phone line freeezing,we have multiple lines so that is not a problem.

As also stated we get a decent discount on Homeowners for having it.
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Put a "beware of vicious dog" sign up right above those ADT stickers.
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