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Old 03-06-2006, 04:30 PM  
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Kiper says Chiefs should draft Clemson CB Tye Hill at #20

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Old 03-06-2006, 04:32 PM   #2
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If Bunkley is off the board, I'm all for it.

Hill ran a 4.30 at the combine I believe. When was the last time we had a corner with that kind of speed?
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Old 03-06-2006, 04:33 PM   #3
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If Bunkley is off the board, I'm all for it.

Hill ran a 4.30 at the combine I believe. When was the last time we had a corner with that kind of speed?
Carter?

And I'm all for it. I know Gabe Watson gets a lot of love around here, but if both of these guys are still on the board, I'd feel better getting Tye Hill.
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Old 03-06-2006, 04:35 PM   #4
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Old 03-06-2006, 04:35 PM   #5
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If he's on the board then we have to take him. We can still get a quality DT in the 2nd round. I'd say we can still snag the 3rd-4th best DT in the draft at that 2nd round pick.
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Old 03-06-2006, 04:40 PM   #6
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maybe ... he fast and quick

his change of direction is better than anyone we have on the roster right now.

several guys might be there at #20 for us imo

tye hill
micheal huff
tamba hali
manny lawson
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Old 03-06-2006, 04:40 PM   #7
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He's tiny and can't play zone to save his life. I think we'd have better options.
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Old 03-06-2006, 04:43 PM   #8
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maybe ... he fast and quick

his change of direction is better than anyone we have on the roster right now.

several guys might be there at #20 for us imo

tye hill
micheal huff
tamba hali
manny lawson
brodrick bunkley

No way Michael Huff is there at 20. I know alot of people said the same about DJ last season, but this guy is top 10. He has Troy Polamalu speed, maybe even better.
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Old 03-06-2006, 04:46 PM   #9
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No way Michael Huff is there at 20. I know alot of people said the same about DJ last season, but this guy is top 10. He has Troy Polamalu speed, maybe even better.
maybe ...


if some team wants him for a cornerback then he is prolly gone.

but if teams look at him as a safety he very well could fall.


usually safeties,linebackers,Guards,Tightends tend to fall at little further than they are ranked.

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Old 03-06-2006, 04:49 PM   #10
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Old 03-06-2006, 05:00 PM   #11
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Old 03-06-2006, 05:32 PM   #12
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He's tiny and can't play zone to save his life. I think we'd have better options.

If he can't play zone than no thanks. I would rather go for a DT than a CB.
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Old 03-06-2006, 05:39 PM   #13
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speed helps obviously, but there is a lot more to playing CB.
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Old 03-06-2006, 05:51 PM   #14
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speed helps obviously, but there is a lot more to playing CB.
who said he was just speed?



T. Hill Fact: Tied the Clemson record for passes defended in a season when he had 21 in 2004.

Years Lettered: 2002,03,04 Bowl Participation: Reserve running back in the 2002 Tangerine Bowl against Texas Tech and starting cornerback in the 2004 Peach Bowl against #6 Tennessee. Fall 2005 Depth Chart Position: First-team cornerback Overview: Listed as the seventh-best cornerback in the nation by Lindy's in its 2005 preseason issue...16th-best cornerback in the nation by Phil Steele...preseason first-team All-ACC selection by Lindy's and Street & Smith...preseason second-team All-ACC by Athlon and Phil Steele...third in the nation in passes defended (21) in the 11 games in 2004...Honorable Mention All-ACC defensive back in 2004...set the Clemson record for pass breakups and tied the record for passes defended in a season ...had twice as many passes defended as any other Tiger and led the ACC in that category...

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Old 03-06-2006, 06:05 PM   #15
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No, would rather spend all our picks on the front seven thru draft and FA...

You can afford average CB's with a great pass rush...
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