Who comes out better with this trade for #1 overall?

**jAZ** · 04-14-2006, 02:51 PM

Trade hypothetical per ESPN:

* Houston give Denver the #1 overall
* Denver gives Houston the #15, #22 overall and a 2nd or 3rd round pick next year

JBucc · 04-14-2006, 02:54 PM

Houston after I hire Jeff Gillooly to put a lead pipe to Reggie's leg.

ct · 04-14-2006, 02:54 PM

Depends on the players selected.

**Rain Man** · 04-14-2006, 02:55 PM

Looks better for Denver when viewed in a vacuum, but I could see Houston doing something like this since they need talent at so many positions.

Amnorix · 04-14-2006, 02:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JBucc

Houston after I hire Jeff Gillooly to put a lead pipe to Reggie's leg.

I don't have the value chart handy, but I doubt that adds up to the 3,000 that the #1 pick is worth.

Imho if Houston moves down, it will be to the #3 or #4 spot, not all the way to freaking 15.

**jAZ** · 04-14-2006, 02:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by coryt

Depends on the players selected.

Ahh! That's cheating. What's your opinion without knowing who gets picked at each spot?

JBucc · 04-14-2006, 02:56 PM

I think it'll take a lot more than that to trade the first overall though

CrazyHorse · 04-14-2006, 02:56 PM

If you look at the trade value chart, the Denver Broncos would probably win. However, the money it would cost them to sign a #1 pick would be prohibitive if they had the option to get 2 1st round picks for less money. I would rather have the 2 picks.

StcChief · 04-14-2006, 02:57 PM

#15,#22 for #1 won't happen unless Houston despirate
or not wanting to pay #1 bonus etc with so many issues.

#1 for those would be a steal by Denver.

John_Wayne · 04-14-2006, 03:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jAZ

Trade hypothetical per ESPN:

* Houston give Denver the #1 overall
* Denver gives Houston the #15, #22 overall and a 2nd or 3rd round pick next year

Obviously, Denver is needing a QB.

ct · 04-14-2006, 03:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jAZ

Ahh! That's cheating. What's your opinion without knowing who gets picked at each spot?

According to the "value chart", Denver wins. But if Denver trades up to take Reggie Bush, then trade/replace him in 2 years, how is that a win? If they move up for Leinart, and he's a stud franchise QB for over a decade, that's hard to beat no matter who Houston gets with #15, 22, and that 2nd/3rd next year.

It depends on the players selected.

CoMoChief · 04-14-2006, 03:15 PM

Houston would in this one.

IMO the more picks the better. Houston needs an Oline, especially at the T position. IMO Reggie Bush will not solve their problems. They already got a good RB in Davis. They also need help at the safety position and the Dline and LB. There should be a good LB at the 15th spot and a good T at the 22nd spot.

Dunit35 · 04-14-2006, 03:17 PM

Houston wins. Two first rounders over one could be better and another 2nd rounder next year.

Starbux37 · 04-14-2006, 03:23 PM

Just based on the Draft value chart numbers, Denver would score bigtime in this scenario.

I ran the numbers and Denver would have to give up all of there picks for this year and just based on Draft value probably next years 1st or at least a 2nd round pick.

Now if Denver would be willing to give up all that for the 1st pick in the draft, then the real winners wouldn't be the Texans, it would be the whole AFC West.

**OnTheWarpath58** · 04-14-2006, 03:34 PM

If Houston wanted to stockpile picks, they would get much more value by using the same scenario, but with the Jets.

R1, picks 4 and 29 have much more value than R1, picks 15 and 22.

Plus, when considering the Jets will probably be much worse than the Donks, that R2 in 2007 will be considerably higher.

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04-14-2006, 02:56 PM	#7
JBucc MVP Join Date: Oct 2005 Casino cash: $13531	I think it'll take a lot more than that to trade the first overall though
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CrazyHorse All Motor! Join Date: Sep 2000 Casino cash: $20054	If you look at the trade value chart, the Denver Broncos would probably win. However, the money it would cost them to sign a #1 pick would be prohibitive if they had the option to get 2 1st round picks for less money. I would rather have the 2 picks.
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04-14-2006, 02:54 PM	#2
JBucc MVP Join Date: Oct 2005 Casino cash: $13531	Houston after I hire Jeff Gillooly to put a lead pipe to Reggie's leg.
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ct FF Junkie Join Date: Aug 2000 Casino cash: $20880	Depends on the players selected.
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StcChief Playing for #1 Draft Pick Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Just West of Lambs land Casino cash: $1024708	#15,#22 for #1 won't happen unless Houston despirate or not wanting to pay #1 bonus etc with so many issues. #1 for those would be a steal by Denver. __________________ sig test for this screwy schema
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CoMoChief The Revolution Has Begun Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: KCMO Casino cash: $123428	Houston would in this one. IMO the more picks the better. Houston needs an Oline, especially at the T position. IMO Reggie Bush will not solve their problems. They already got a good RB in Davis. They also need help at the safety position and the Dline and LB. There should be a good LB at the 15th spot and a good T at the 22nd spot. __________________ 2013 Adopt-A-Chief: Eric Berry #29
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Dunit35 Keepin it Real Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Oklahoma Casino cash: $1995319	Houston wins. Two first rounders over one could be better and another 2nd rounder next year.
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04-14-2006, 03:23 PM	#14
Starbux37 damned n00b Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Dayton, NV Casino cash: $18329	Just based on the Draft value chart numbers, Denver would score bigtime in this scenario. I ran the numbers and Denver would have to give up all of there picks for this year and just based on Draft value probably next years 1st or at least a 2nd round pick. Now if Denver would be willing to give up all that for the 1st pick in the draft, then the real winners wouldn't be the Texans, it would be the whole AFC West.
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04-14-2006, 03:34 PM	#15
OnTheWarpath58 FACTORY OF SADNESS Join Date: Sep 2005 Casino cash: $3883424	If Houston wanted to stockpile picks, they would get much more value by using the same scenario, but with the Jets. R1, picks 4 and 29 have much more value than R1, picks 15 and 22. Plus, when considering the Jets will probably be much worse than the Donks, that R2 in 2007 will be considerably higher.
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