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View Poll Results: Which guys should be in the Hall of Fame? (See rules and defns in thread header.)
Team Player, Popular public figure, Squeaky clean 4 57.14%
Team Player, Popular public figure, Neutral legal status 4 57.14%
Team Player, Popular public figure, Criminal 1 14.29%
Team Player, Neutral public figure, Squeaky clean 5 71.43%
Team Player, Neutral public figure, Neutral legal status 5 71.43%
Team Player, Neutral public figure, Criminal 1 14.29%
Team Player, Hated public figure, Squeaky clean 3 42.86%
Team Player, Hated public figure, Neutral legal status 3 42.86%
Team Player, Hated public figure, Criminal 1 14.29%
Team Neutral, Popular public figure, Squeaky clean 3 42.86%
Team Neutral, Popular public figure, Neutral legal status 4 57.14%
Team Neutral, Popular public figure, Criminal 1 14.29%
Team Neutral, Neutral public figure, Squeaky clean 3 42.86%
Team Neutral, Neutral public figure, Neutral legal status 3 42.86%
Team Neutral, Neutral public figure, Criminal 0 0%
Team Neutral, Hated public figure, Squeaky clean 2 28.57%
Team Neutral, Hated public figure, Neutral legal status 2 28.57%
Team Neutral, Hated public figure, Criminal 0 0%
Team Cancer, Popular public figure, Squeaky clean 1 14.29%
Team Cancer, Popular public figure, Neutral legal status 1 14.29%
Team Cancer, Popular public figure, Criminal 0 0%
Team Cancer, Neutral public figure, Squeaky clean 1 14.29%
Team Cancer, Neutral public figure, Neutral legal status 0 0%
Team Cancer, Neutral public figure, Criminal 0 0%
Team Cancer, Hated public figure, Squeaky clean 0 0%
Team Cancer, Hated public figure, Neutral legal status 0 0%
Team Cancer, Hated public figure, Criminal 0 0%
All of them. Producing on the field is what matters. 1 14.29%
None of them. I'm very, very selective. 0 0%
I need more data. How well did he catch out of the backfield? 0 0%
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Old 04-27-2006, 02:48 PM  
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Theoretical: Hall of Fame Criteria

The Pete Rose thread got me to thinking: how important should non-field characteristics be in choosing Hall of Famers?

I'll put up a poll with 27 different types of players. Assume that all of them have exactly the same statistical production on the field, and that it is in the top ten all-time for their position.

Example: if it's a running back, each back gained 12,000 yards at a 4.4 ypc pace. They went to 7 pro bowls and have 1 Super Bowl ring over a 13-year career. They were each an MVP one year. In other words, there wouldn't be a lot of argument about their statistical qualifications for the Hall of Fame, but at the same time, they aren't a freakish #1 or anything.

Now assume that each of those 27 players differs in their non-statistical production in three ways:

Team Chemistry:

A. Team Player - Good guy, makes those around him better, popular team leader.
B. Team Neutral - Never stepped up as a leader, but never caused problems.
C. Team Cancer - Constant complainer, tends to drag down team chemistry and team performance.


Public Chemistry:

A. Popular public figure - Good guy, in demand for speeches, fan favorite
B. Neutral public figure - Not charismatic, fans like him but never got the love expected from his stats
C. Hated public figure - Won't give autographs, calls fans 'suckers', egocentric

Legal Status:

A. Squeaky clean - Never a scrape with the law.
B. Neutral legal status - Has had a couple of minor scrapes in 13 years - one assault, one domestic violence, a couple of lawsuits
C. Criminal - Several assaults on record, several battles with NFL over drug use, implicated but not convicted in at least one major case (murder, extortion, shooting, etc.)
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