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Old 04-27-2006, 05:38 PM  
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Rove about to be indicted?

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Old 04-27-2006, 05:49 PM   #2
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According my news sites, which have predicted e/g on this administration so far accurately (and I do not read left-wing progressive sites), this was coming.
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Old 04-27-2006, 05:55 PM   #3
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According my news sites, which have predicted e/g on this administration so far accurately (and I do not read left-wing progressive sites), this was coming.
Everyone started predicting it once Rove asked Fitzgerald for a (5th?) chance to testify before the grand jury to explain why he "forgot" to tell the grand jury that he leaked the identity to Time magazine.
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Old 04-27-2006, 06:15 PM   #4
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Everyone started predicting it once Rove asked Fitzgerald for a (5th?) chance to testify before the grand jury to explain why he "forgot" to tell the grand jury that he leaked the identity to Time magazine.
Well a lot of conservatives and/or NeoCons denied that to kingdom come, per my observation. I don't know if you could literally claim "everyone!"

Even, the conservative/libertarian Independent Institute..vehemently against the Iraq invasion and vehemently smeard by the NeoCons to the point of getting dropped from the WSJ's editorial pages, wasn't sure Fitz would be able to indict Rove.
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Old 04-27-2006, 06:24 PM   #5
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oh please, oh please let this piece of dogsnot gets what coming to him.


Bush is only the front man ... Rove is the true bastard.
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Old 04-27-2006, 06:39 PM   #6
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Well a lot of conservatives and/or NeoCons denied that to kingdom come, per my observation. I don't know if you could literally claim "everyone!"

Even, the conservative/libertarian Independent Institute..vehemently against the Iraq invasion and vehemently smeard by the NeoCons to the point of getting dropped from the WSJ's editorial pages, wasn't sure Fitz would be able to indict Rove.
My post might have come across as a bit corse in tone. I didn't mean "everyone" literally... probably should have said "many". It's very rare for a target of an investigation to request another chance before the grand jury. In almost all cases, it's because the target *needs* another chance in front of the grand jury in order to prevent indictment. Any time it happens, red flags go up... That's all I was referring to.

Prior to Rove's request, I don't know that those same "many" people would so confidently say Rove will be indicted.
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Old 04-27-2006, 06:42 PM   #7
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oh please, oh please let this piece of dogsnot gets what coming to him.


Bush is only the front manRove is the true bastard.
Bush is the front man I would agree. Rove is a tough stategist...but Cheney really runs the show.
Cheney has the stronger personality of the two with the word "prez" in their names and has the most power ever in the history of our republic than any VP.

Bush basically turned over our FP to him with an Executive Order which has never been done before violating the Consititution he swore to defend! I thought Clinton abused EO's.

Cheney runs the show!
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Old 04-27-2006, 06:59 PM   #8
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Bush is the front man I would agree. Rove is a tough stategist...but Cheney really runs the show.
Cheney has the stronger personality of the two with the word "prez" in their names and has the most power ever in the history of our republic than any VP.

Bush basically turned over our FP to him with an Executive Order which has never been done before violating the Consititution he swore to defend! I thought Clinton abused EO's.

Cheney runs the show!

hmmm ... very possible

when all the planes were crashing etc they made sure that cheney was off at the "undisclosed location"

they knew who they didn't want hurt


who has the real power ... cheney or rove?
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Old 04-27-2006, 07:02 PM   #9
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Bush basically turned over our FP to him with an Executive Order which has never been done before violating the Consititution he swore to defend! I thought Clinton abused EO's.

Cheney runs the show!
Can you explain what this means? What's "FP"?
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Old 04-27-2006, 07:05 PM   #10
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FP= Foreign Policy

The rest means Bush wrote an Executive Order ( I don't remember the number...I'd have to go back and find it, if I can find it that is) turning over our FP to Dick Cheney. Means what it says is all.
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Old 04-27-2006, 07:10 PM   #11
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FP= Foreign Policy

The rest means Bush wrote an Executive Order ( I don't remember the number...I'd have to go back and find it, if I can find it that is) turning over our FP to Dick Cheney. Means what it says is all.
Wow. Can you find that EO#?

I missed that one entirely. Disturbing stuff.
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Old 04-27-2006, 07:23 PM   #12
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I just came back from looking for it.
I can't remember what site it was either.
But I did read it and there is a number for it.
It supposedly happened pretty early in his first term I believe.
It's the Executive writing the law in this case.
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Old 04-27-2006, 07:29 PM   #13
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...and to think that I bet Ringleader a six pack of a beverage of choice over a year ago that Rove would be indicted.

Too bad that he disappeared...
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Old 04-27-2006, 08:15 PM   #15
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For outing Valerie Plame?
For covering it up.
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