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Old 05-01-2006, 10:59 AM  
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Fox Sport's Draft Grades-AFC West

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Grading the 2006 NFL draft
John Czarnecki / FOXSports.com
Posted: 1 hour ago

With the NFL draft now a thing of the past, it's time to hand out some grades.


3. Denver: Months ago, the Broncos started out with the 29th overall pick in the first round and somehow made several trades and ended up with Vanderbilt quarterback Jay Cutler and Green Bay's Pro-Bowl receiver Javon Walker. The bottom line is that Mike Shanahan improved his team, especially if Walker produces like he did in 2004. Western Michigan TE Tony Scheffler is a Wesley Walls-type while Louisville pass rusher Elvis Dumervil had 20 sacks last season. Dumervil has a great motor and should help on nickel defense. A very productive draft when you consider Walker and Cutler are Broncos. Picked up Bronco-like offensive linemen in Chris Kuper and Greg Eslinger in the later rounds. Grade: A

15. Oakland: Al Davis decided on Friday that he was going with Texas safety Michael Huff, who has the athletic ability to play some cornerback in nickel situations. Huff will be a sure starter; he's the fifth defensive back taken by Davis in the first round in the last eight drafts. USC safety Darnell Bing probably will moved to linebacker because he's such a good tackler. They definitely reached on Weber State guard Paul McQuistan, who most teams had as a second-day choice. Thomas Howard, the UTEP linebacker, is a project who could become a star in two or three years. Most teams liked Howard's upside. The local newspapers had a field-day on Sunday while poking fun at new head coach Art Shell for calling Matt Leinart "Michael" Leinart. The Raiders were also booed for selecting Maine WR Kevin McMahan over Virginia Tech bad-boy quarterback Marcus Vick with the final pick of the entire draft. Grade: C

26. San Diego: Took total potential in the first round with cornerback Antonio Cromartie, who didn't even play last season at Florida State because of a torn ACL. But he was a workout warrior with a 42-inch vertical jump and several 40s in the 4.3 range. But he does have the size (6-2, 210) to be a quality starter if he can play! Big question. Clemson QB Charlie Whitehurst had good games and awful games. A.J. Smith took a big chance in the second round with huge Auburn OT Marcus McNeill, whose narrowing spinal-cord column could limit his years in the NFL, according to some teams. Grade: C-

28. Kansas City: The Chiefs took some great character players in Penn State defensive end Tamba Hali, Purdue safety Bernard Pollard and Alabama quarterback Brodie Croyle, but the general consensus is that they reached on all three of these players. Hali may be simply a situational pass rusher and Croyle has had so many injuries that one ESPN commentator said he may have to sit for two years before he's really ready to contribute. Grade: D
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Old 05-01-2006, 11:01 AM   #2
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All I read into it is ESPN's love for the .
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Old 05-01-2006, 11:02 AM   #3
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This guy must have had all three inches of Bowlen's cocque up in him when he typed this.
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Old 05-01-2006, 11:02 AM   #4
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All I read into it is ESPN's love for the .
I hear ya (except for it's a FOX Sports ranking).
Seriously though, you can read 20 different rankings and get 20 different grades. No one knows how this draft will turn out until 2010 or so.
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Old 05-01-2006, 11:02 AM   #5
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OK, I don't really care about the grade, but it seems pretty clear this clown has no clue.

Hali a situational rusher? No.
Bernard Pollard a character guy? Eh, not exactly.
Croyle needing two years as a negative? We have a QB named Green that might be able to fill in.
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Old 05-01-2006, 11:03 AM   #6
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Not too far. The only thing i had difference is that croyal won't play at all due to chronic knee problems, but the rest is on point.
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Old 05-01-2006, 11:04 AM   #7
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Croyle needing two years as a negative? We have a QB named Green that might be able to fill in.
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I hear ya (except for it's a FOX Sports ranking).
Seriously though, you can read 20 different rankings and get 20 different grades. No one knows how this draft will turn out until 2010 or so.
Sorry. ESPN or FOXSPORTS. Is there a differnce?
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Not too far. The only thing i had difference is that croyal won't play at all due to chronic knee problems, but the rest is on point.
Chronic knee problems?

It's a fuggin ligament tear, not arthritis.
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...and Croyle has had so many injuries that one ESPN commentator said he may have to sit for two years before he's really ready to contribute. Grade: D
Well, if he actually LISTENED to what they were saying, he would have written it correctly. The commentators were saying Croyle is in a perfect situation because he will be behind Trent Green for two years, and in the meantime- spend those years getting that battle-tested body bulked up, primed, and ready to go.
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Old 05-01-2006, 11:10 AM   #11
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Denver did do an outstanding job of gettting "their guy." And if Walker works out, they did well there also. Time will tell. I've said over the years that I like the fact that EVERY year they seem to make moves to improve their team - even after winning the division and going 13-3. Course, when you violate the cap in the proceess, twice in a 5-year span, and merely get a slap on the wrist for it, it might make things a bit easier. Sill, I admire the effort.

With regards to the Chiefs, I like the first pick, am "ok" with the 2nd but feel the Chiefs could have gotten that guy later on, but am not at all pleased with the 3rd. We went into the draft needing allot but of most importance IMO were a DE, CB, and WR and we still need 2.
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Cutler won't play for at least two years. And Javon Walker is a malcontent coming off a torn ACL. It's funny that these two moves are looked upon so favorably by the media. If getting Walker means that the Broncos will be getting rid of Lelie or putting him on the bench, even better news for us.
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Chronic knee problems?

It's a fuggin ligament tear, not arthritis.

You probably never had a ligament tear, but scare tissue builds up easily afterwords causing reduced flexibility and strength. I saw the tapes of the workouts conbined with his substance abuse problems i don't think he will ever see the field.
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They reached on Croyle? Dumbass.
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On the same site they say that Croyle and Maxey were 2 of the best picks in the 3rd and 5th. Just goes to show that these grades mean nothing.
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